Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4051 Post by Drucker » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:55 pm

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Maybe this has been brought up before, but just out of curiosity, has there been a more recent restoration of Solaris?
Yes, I believe so.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4052 Post by A Tempted Christ » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm

Did any one notice that they sort of confirmed this a month ago? They posted a Tarkovsky stamp on their Instagram and someone in the comments asked "Mirror 2021?" and they replied "Yes".

Also I'm glad my semi-prediction on another thread came true. Considering the color of the sky in the poster, It seems like Criterion has taken some liberty with their release of Mirror.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4053 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:19 pm

A Tempted Christ wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
It seems like Criterion has taken some liberty with their release of Mirror.
How have they taken liberties with it?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4054 Post by Big Ben » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:28 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:19 pm
A Tempted Christ wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
It seems like Criterion has taken some liberty with their release of Mirror.
How have they taken liberties with it?
I imagine it has to do with the pink in the sky. For whatever reason I've seen people debate online for years about what color the sky is supposed to be in the shot itself.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4055 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:35 pm

***ROUND UP RODEO UPDATE***

I interrupt this topic to shoehorn in a belated congrats to barbarella satyricon for correctly guessing two of the titles announced this month. Unfortunately, with the delay, the arena was already booked, so they win a glamorous, all expenses paid (so long as those expenses fit on this partially-redeemed $10 Visa gift card my grandmother gave me) trip to glamorous Rodeo Drive. Special consolation feathered pashminas and $350 white t-shirts go out to Bressonaire (of course) and cowboydan for their singular guesses of announced titles. When will Minkin return and save us all from the ignominy of me running this?!? Soon, we all hope!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4056 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:41 pm

Big Ben wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:28 pm
yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:19 pm
A Tempted Christ wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
It seems like Criterion has taken some liberty with their release of Mirror.
How have they taken liberties with it?
I imagine it has to do with the pink in the sky. For whatever reason I've seen people debate online for years about what color the sky is supposed to be in the shot itself.
That's fine and all but I'm not sure how that falls on Criterion when they weren't even behind the restoration.

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#4057 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:20 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:35 pm
***ROUND UP RODEO UPDATE***

When will Minkin return and save us all from the ignominy of me running this?!? Soon, we all hope!
Image

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4058 Post by A Tempted Christ » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:53 am

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:41 pm
That's fine and all but I'm not sure how that falls on Criterion when they weren't even behind the restoration.
They weren't behind the restoration of Stalker either but they replaced the somewhat grey look of the monochrome scenes of that film with a saturated yellow tint in their release. See here. My reference point here is the French Blu-ray because it's almost untouched compared to the video on Mosfilm's YouTube channel. They may not have any association with the restoration of a film but I think when they license it they can do whatever they want with it. I could be wrong.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4059 Post by barbarella satyricon » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:22 am

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:35 pm
... all expenses paid (so long as those expenses fit on this partially-redeemed $10 Visa gift card my grandmother gave me) trip to glamorous Rodeo Drive.
Thank you, thank you. I will try to redeem that amount for valet parking somewhere next time I’m in the area. I’ll be the one blasting the Pretty Woman soundtrack from my rent-a-car (“Wild Women Do”), also sporting a fluorescent green TMNT t-shirt (first live action movie version) for that early 90’s weekend window shopping feel. Again, thank you.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4060 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:46 pm

It's been two years since we had a Harold Lloyd. I would think that another one should come this year. What's likely?..... Is Girl Shy the last of his 1920's top tier features?

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#4061 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:50 pm

I’d kill for The Sin of Harold Diddlebock which would also give us another Preston Sturges

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#4062 Post by bottlesofsmoke » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:56 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:46 pm
It's been two years since we had a Harold Lloyd. I would think that another one should come this year. What's likely?..... Is Girl Shy the last of his 1920's top tier features?
I know Kevin Brownlow is a big fan of For Heaven’s Sake, which is streaming on the Channel, for whatever that’s worth. I do wonder what they plan to do with the several Lloyd features that are around an hour in length and would hardly seem like something they’d release on their own. Those and the sound films would make a fun box set, especially if Diddlebock is included!

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#4063 Post by FlickeringWindow » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:21 am

Here's what was on the New Line box set from the early 2000s and what's been released from it so far...

3/13 shorts included as extras on disc releases, plus four exclusive to Criterion Channel
4/11 silent features released so far on disc, plus three exclusive to Criterion Channel (two remastered)
All four sound features on set on Criterion Channel (Feet First has newer transfer)
6 shorts exclusive to Criterion releases plus one Channel exclusive

Short Films:
An Eastern Westerner (1918) - on The Freshman
Ask Father (1919) - on Criterion Channel
From Hand to Mouth (1919)
Bumping Into Broadway (1919) - on Speedy
Billy Blazes Esq. (1919) - on Criterion Channel
Now or Never (1921)
High and Dizzy (1920) - on The Freshman
Haunted Spooks (1920)
Get Out and Get Under (1920)
Number, Please? (1920) - on Criterion Channel
Among Those Present (1920)
I Do (1920)
Never Weaken (1921) - on Criterion Channel

Silent Features:
A Sailor Made Man (1921)
Grandma’s Boy (1922)
Dr. Jack (1922) - on Criterion Channel
Safety Last! (1923) - Available on Blu/DVD
Why Worry? (1923) - newly remastered on Criterion Channel
Girl Shy (1924)
Hot Water (1924)
The Freshman (1925) - Available on Dual Format
For Heaven’s Sake (1926) - newly remastered on Criterion Channel
The Kid Brother (1927) - Available on Blu/DVD
Speedy (1928) - Available on Blu/DVD

Sound Features:
Feet First (1930) - newer transfer on Criterion Channel
Movie Crazy (1932) - on Criterion Channel
The Cat’s Paw (1934) - on Criterion Channel
The Milky Way (1936) - on Criterion Channel

Not on the New Line DVD set:
Over the Fence (1917) - on The Kid Brother
That’s Him (1918) - on The Kid Brother
Take a Chance (1918) - on Safety Last!
Just Neighbors (1919) - on Criterion Channel
The Marathon (1919) - on The Freshman
Young Mr. Jazz (1919) - on Safety Last!
His Royal Slyness (1920) - on Safety Last!
Welcome Danger (1929) [feature] - on Criterion Channel

Almost would make more sense to do a big box for Lloyd at this point.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4064 Post by Speller » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:51 am

I would love upgrades to The Devil and Daniel Webster and Fiend Without a Face...any rumors swirling around those ?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4065 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:30 am

Bressonaire has guessed the Devil and Daniel Webster before, so I’d place that bet

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4066 Post by ftsoh » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:47 pm

FlickeringWindow wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:21 am
Almost would make more sense to do a big box for Lloyd at this point.
This and the Chaplin's too.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4067 Post by aox » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:39 pm

I'm kind of surprised they haven't assembled a Chaplin box given the Olympics, Fellini, and Bergman boxes. I speculate that monetizing the individual BD releases has surely plateaued at this point. They have the rights to everything, right?

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#4068 Post by zedz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:06 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Big Ben wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:33 pm
Restoration Trailer for Mirror
How badly did they fuck up the color timing on this one...?
Those colours look exactly like the newly struck 35 mm print I watched multiple times in the early nineties. Beautiful.

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#4069 Post by Calvin » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:15 pm

aox wrote:I'm kind of surprised they haven't assembled a Chaplin box given the Olympics, Fellini, and Bergman boxes. I speculate that monetizing the individual BD releases has surely plateaued at this point. They have the rights to everything, right?
Criterion were credited with a new restoration of The Great Dictator at last year's Il Cinema Ritrovato so I would not be surprised if there's a Chaplin box this year for the centenary of The Kid, his first feature.

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#4070 Post by Cinephrenic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:10 am

We need a Fassbinder set.

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#4071 Post by justeleblanc » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:58 pm

Cinephrenic wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:10 am
We need a Fassbinder set.
We do. Is there a comprehensive list of all the Fassbinder titles that have received restorations so far and which ones are planned?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4072 Post by beamish14 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:08 pm

justeleblanc wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:58 pm
Cinephrenic wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:10 am
We need a Fassbinder set.
We do. Is there a comprehensive list of all the Fassbinder titles that have received restorations so far and which ones are planned?

Is this it?
Fassbinder and Oshima Nagisa boxes are long, long overdue. It's fun speculating about which titles should get their own spines vs. which
are the Eclipse-bound.

Querelle is StudioCanal, no? Editor Juliane Lorenz has said that a longer, superior cut still exists.

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#4073 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:18 pm

I'd be just fine with a Fassbinder set excluding Querelle

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#4074 Post by beamish14 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:20 pm

Is Lili Marleen still unavailable due to a rights issue? I'd love to have both the English and Deutsch cuts in one place.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4075 Post by goblinfootballs » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:57 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:08 pm
justeleblanc wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:58 pm
Cinephrenic wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:10 am
We need a Fassbinder set.
We do. Is there a comprehensive list of all the Fassbinder titles that have received restorations so far and which ones are planned?

Is this it?
Fassbinder and Oshima Nagisa boxes are long, long overdue. It's fun speculating about which titles should get their own spines vs. which
are the Eclipse-bound.

Querelle is StudioCanal, no? Editor Juliane Lorenz has said that a longer, superior cut still exists.
It's with Janus. Opens with a Janus logo on the Criterion Channel. For some reason on the Janus website it doesn't come up with you search "Rainer Werner Fassbinder" but does come up with you search "Querelle." I know not about the status of a longer cut.

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