Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2326 Post by movielocke » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:03 pm

Minkin wrote:If Criterion is going to do a yearly ~30 disc boxset every November, I wonder what other things they can cover. I could see:

Wenders box
Almodovar box
Itami box
Ray box
Kinoshita 500 disc box
Harold Lloyd box
"Complete Bulldog Drummond" (my S/O would adore this) box
"Godzilla and Friends" box
"Hey look, we brought back all of those OOP Studio Canal titles in one go" box
"Everybody Wins the Criterionforum's monthly Quarantined Guessing Thread" box
Kiarostami is getting such a box next year

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2327 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:05 pm

No, he's getting a box set of three movies

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2328 Post by dwk » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:37 pm

Why not both? Koker Trilogy early in the year and big set in November.
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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2329 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Because Criterion is in the business of making money?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2330 Post by dwk » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Criterion has just done the same thing with Bergman. Plus, Kiarostami's son has said that they are working on a complete films box set.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2331 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 pm

Do you really see no commercial difference between these two?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2332 Post by movielocke » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:48 pm

dwk wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:37 pm
Why not both? Koker Trilogy early in the year and big set in November.
doubtful they'd do both like that.

But if they do put out just the Koker trilogy, in spite of reports from his son that they're putting out a complete works set, that opens the window for the Bergman blu-only box to be a template for an Akira Kurosawa box in November 2019.

It would be ten years after the DVD only AK100 box, and they could possibly approach an AK110 release the same way as the Bergman box, only putting out a bluray and including extras this time, with a film-festival ordering.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2333 Post by Ribs » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:50 pm

Would maybe explain why they’ve sat on Dersu Uzala for almost three years

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2334 Post by Toby Dammit » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:02 pm

On the website of "MOSTRA INTERNAZIONALE D’ARTE CINEMATOGRAFICA DI VENEZIA" appeared the list of recently restored movies, two of them are in collaboration with Criterion, here they are:
MORTE A VENEZIA (Death in Venice)
di LUCHINO VISCONTI (Italia, Francia, USA, 1971, 130’ , Colore)
restauro: Cineteca di Bologna e Istituto Luce - Cinecittà in collaborazione con Warner Bros. e *The Criterion Collection*
Noodles1984 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:32 am
Yes, it's very OOP, the biggest hope is to have, as i said before, Visconti German Trilogy Box...for a lot of reasons..The Damned is from MGM/Warner, it's OOP and even in Europe the Dvd is in bad quality often censored and rare, it was restored years ago by Cineteca but the restoration was never published(i don't know if 2k or 4k),then we have the OOP Death in Venice and Ludwig, published in a great blu release by Arrow...there is also the first movie of the director, Ossessione, now restored in 4k, the last dvd is great but a blu is necessary.
I'm very excited about this news!!!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2335 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:36 pm

They retweeted another post specifically about Les Girls, which I didn't realize was on Filmstruck. Looks like this was never about Orry-Kelly after all

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2336 Post by Werewolf by Night » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:13 pm

A whole bunch of George Cukor films were just added to FilmStruck.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2337 Post by Minkin » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:24 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:49 pm
yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:24 pm
The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:14 pm
I think everyone is too distracted with theoretical box sets to care, but according to someone on the Blu-ray.com forums (hell on Earth, I know), someone curious about the rights to Jackie Chan's Police Story did a bit of sleuthing and claims that Janus Films owns the rights to it following the 4K restoration that played at MoMA.
Do you have a link?
Forgot to include it with the original post. If you follow their posts, you'll see that they were trying to figure out the rights for a few weeks.
I assume this means they at least have the rights to Police Story 2 then? Would any other quality films (Chan or otherwise) come from the same licensor / deal?

I see that Criterion released Super Cop "Police Story 3" on Laserdisc - so that might explain things (would this still be tied up with Miramax?). I wonder how many of the films in the series that they plan to release? Just the four original films? Include the Michelle Yeoh spin-off? The two reboot films? Its an interesting development.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2338 Post by dwk » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:46 am

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 pm
Do you really see no commercial difference between these two?
Sure, but I don't know how much of a one. But, we'll see what happens next year.
Minkin wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:24 pm
I see that Criterion released Super Cop "Police Story 3" on Laserdisc - so that might explain things (would this still be tied up with Miramax?). I wonder how many of the films in the series that they plan to release? Just the four original films? Include the Michelle Yeoh spin-off? The two reboot films? Its an interesting development.
Yes, part 3 is still with Miramax and part 4 is with Warner Brothers. Fortune Star ( click here if you want to see what other films they own, but, again, some of these are already owned by other companies in the US) only did new 4K restorations for the following:
Police Story 1-3
A Better Tomorrow
the Bruce Lee catalog
Once Upon a Time in China 1-3 (I think Sony has these in the US)

They did new 2K restorations of these:
A Chinese Ghost Story
Running Out of Time
Running Out of Time 2
The Story of Riki
The Adventurers
Iron Monkey (this is probably still with Miramax)
Black Mask (Lionsgate)
Black Mast 2
The Cannonball RUn
Battle Creek BRAWL
Armour of God (Miramax)
City Hunter
Project A (Miramax)
Project A 2 (Miramax)
Wheels on Meals
Once Upon a Time in China and America
Dr. Wai in "The Scriptures with No Words"

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2339 Post by yoloswegmaster » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:05 am

dwk wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:46 am
domino harvey wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 pm
Do you really see no commercial difference between these two?
Sure, but I don't know how much of a one. But, we'll see what happens next year.
Minkin wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:24 pm
I see that Criterion released Super Cop "Police Story 3" on Laserdisc - so that might explain things (would this still be tied up with Miramax?). I wonder how many of the films in the series that they plan to release? Just the four original films? Include the Michelle Yeoh spin-off? The two reboot films? Its an interesting development.
Yes, part 3 is still with Miramax and part 4 is with Warner Brothers. Fortune Star ( click here if you want to see what other films they own, but, again, some of these are already owned by other companies in the US) only did new 4K restorations for the following:
Police Story 1-3
A Better Tomorrow
the Bruce Lee catalog
Once Upon a Time in China 1-3 (I think Sony has these in the US)

They did new 2K restorations of these:
A Chinese Ghost Story
Running Out of Time
Running Out of Time 2
The Story of Riki
The Adventurers
Iron Monkey (this is probably still with Miramax)
Black Mask (Lionsgate)
Black Mast 2
The Cannonball RUn
Battle Creek BRAWL
Armour of God (Miramax)
City Hunter
Project A (Miramax)
Project A 2 (Miramax)
Wheels on Meals
Once Upon a Time in China and America
Dr. Wai in "The Scriptures with No Words"
Disappointed that 'The Killer' hasn't gotten a 2K or 4K restoration but happy that 'A Better Tomorrow' has gotten one. Will it be released in NA soon?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2340 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:28 am

'The Naked Prey' shows up in the Coming Soon section of the website.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2341 Post by Omensetter » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:33 am

It's down, but that sounds about right!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2342 Post by jedgeco » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:52 pm

MongooseCmr wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:30 pm
I wouldn’t bank too hard on special anniversaries for box sets going forward. Harold Lloyd’s 125th birthday was last April, and since they’re clearly not rushing to give his films individual releases anymore I would guess the inevitable box set isn’t being timed for this year either.
Agreed. There's always been something of a special relationship between Janus Films as a company and Bergman, going back to (IIRC) distributing THE SEVENTH SEAL. So a Bergman box makes sense in the context of the company's history in a way that other filmmakers don't, except maybe Kurosawa, who not coincidentally got the AK100 set.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2343 Post by dwk » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:26 pm

I'd add Truffaut to the list of important to the company filmmakers. Hell, Criterion's softball team is/was named after him (True Foes)

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2344 Post by movielocke » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:31 pm

dwk wrote:I'd add Truffaut to the list of important to the company filmmakers. Hell, Criterion's softball team is/was named after him (True Foes)
If these “[auteur]’s cinema” filmography “books” become a thing, I could see them issuing an annual one for the canonical art house filmmakers hat make up criterions cornerstone editions like Kurosawa, ozu, Truffaut and Welles. Such a set of five or six of these “books” would be quite striking, and a good way to push out some of the languishing back catalog films.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2345 Post by Ribs » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:10 pm

Sisters upgrade listed now too

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#2346 Post by KJones77 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:13 pm

Ribs wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:10 pm
Sisters upgrade listed now too
Shoot. I shouldn't have caved and bought the Arrow release earlier this year.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2347 Post by criterionoop » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:14 pm

8 HOURS DON'T MAKE A DAY and THE NAKED PREY are also listed as blu ray

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#2348 Post by Ribs » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:20 pm

Princess Bride too

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#2349 Post by Ribs » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:23 pm

And Shampoo!!!!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2350 Post by John Doe » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:29 pm

How dis you guys find Shampoo ans Princess Bride?

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