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Luke M
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Re: MoviePass

#301 Post by Luke M » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:00 pm

Theater owners biggest concern is if MoviePass shuts down people will have to go back to the old business model of buying tickets only for movies they really want to see? It’s amazing theaters aren’t plastering ads for MoviePass all over their doors.

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Re: MoviePass

#302 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:15 pm

I mean, yeah! If you're a small independent theater and people are taking the plunge on seeing film(s) they might not otherwise because they know they won't have to pay additional money out of pocket, I would have to guess that a theater like that stands to benefit the most from that sort of thing. People are going to see giant tentpole movies anyway, but a repertory screening or indie might get skipped for some consumers without MoviePass in the picture. It's an unfortunate reality, but a reality all the same. I'm going to see the Mr. Rogers doc this week at the nonprofit theater near me - would I be doing that if not for MoviePass? Maaaybe, but I'd probably be waiting for it to show up on Netflix. That's $25 in the theater's pocket that they wouldn't be getting if I weren't a MoviePass subscriber.

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Re: MoviePass

#303 Post by Ribs » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:28 am

AMC is launching its own subscription service, allowing 3 movies a week in any format for $20 a month, personally the first of these services since the price drop last year that doesn’t leave me feeling like it was designed to cripple the industry

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Re: MoviePass

#304 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:48 am

More evidence for my pet theory:Image

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Re: MoviePass

#305 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:56 am

Can't wait to leave my $89 per year service to pay AMC $20 a month for less flexibility

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Re: MoviePass

#306 Post by BigMack3000 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:05 am

Is it less flexibility? If this is a program you can add and drop as desired, I could see myself using it during the summer months and relying on moviepass for the rest. Imax is $23 by me.

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Re: MoviePass

#307 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:08 am

I guess if IMAX is important to you (I probably see maybe one movie per year in the format if that?) or 3D is important to you (actively avoid it) or RPX (total gimmick)... but if you just want to see 2D movies it's absolutely less flexible than MoviePass is, which lets you see a movie per day at any theater instead of 3 movies per week at AMC theaters only. For less than half the price.

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Re: MoviePass

#308 Post by Ribs » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:20 am

This offer is being held by a stakeholder that actually has any interest in sustaining the film industry, which is the only plus I need

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Re: MoviePass

#309 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:27 am

Nothing says sustaining the film industry like having to go to an AMC to see movies. Sorry, indies!

This is like Gillette selling their razors as a subscription even though they're just as expensive as they always were in a limp effort to combat Dollar Shave Club, etc

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Re: MoviePass

#310 Post by Kirkinson » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:51 am

Yeah, I go to independent theaters unless I have no other option for something I want to see, so a subscription service limited to a single chain is basically meaningless to me. To be fair, though, this one is extra meaningless since AMC doesn't have any theaters in Portland (looks like the nearest one is in Corvallis).

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Re: MoviePass

#311 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:04 pm

When I was living in the suburbs, the most convenient choices were AMC theaters in the nearest malls, so an AMC pass would be great in that context.

But I spend far, FAR more time at indies than I do at any AMC now. I've been to an AMC twice so far this year to see Isle of Dogs and First Reformed, and I've seen eight films at Lincoln Center this month alone (which isn't even over). Another strike against AMC - the stupid machines weren't working when I went to see First Reformed, and for a very long time, they only had one ridiculously slow cashier, so even though I got there pretty early, I didn't get into the theater until almost 20 minutes after the start time. Turns out, I didn't miss anything because they had TWO more trailers before the actual movie began. So I got lucky...but on the other hand, do you want to sit through 30 minutes of trailers every time you see a movie at AMC?

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Re: MoviePass

#312 Post by Ribs » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:46 pm

I understand it's totally a me thing, but I will never understand people who complain that there are too many movie trailers, ever. It's like complaining the Oscars are too long: make them six hours long and I'm still there! I'd *love* there to be ten trailers every time I go to the movies. How great - all these people finding out what's coming soon!

I also am generally of the opinion that multiplexes are actually good, and hate the common film person opinion they somehow denigrate the form. In particular, I've found most AMCs in my area made sure the projection was up to snuff when they renovated, and almost every screen looks noticeably better and properly good since then.

Anyway, I think AMC's program makes a lot of sense, considering that the vast preponderance of people are looking to see at most two movies a month, and it offers that capability at a price that should be pretty easily transferable to some kind of overall profitability. I question the timing of this, considering MoviePass has in general not had a great month regarding its potential future (it'd make more sense, IMO, to wait a little longer, but I don't think this is designed to steal MoviePass subscribers so much as entice common people with a program they can sign up for at a physical location that can be upsold by cashiers).

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Re: MoviePass

#313 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:04 pm

Ribs wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:46 pm
...all these people finding out how much lousy shit you'll never see is coming soon!
Fixed.

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Re: MoviePass

#314 Post by Emak-Bakia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:42 pm

The deal-breaker with MoviePass for me was always that you had to have a smartphone (flip phone user here.) Sounds like this AMC program does not require an app, so I'm all for it. Independent theaters here in Pittsburgh have really taken a lashing this year (a sorry state of affairs to which I won't go into here), to the point that the local AMC (conveniently within walking distance of my house) is now my most-frequented theater. I'll probably sign up for this program day one.

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Re: MoviePass

#315 Post by domino harvey » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:45 pm

Emak-Bakia wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:42 pm
(flip phone user here.)
Emak-Bakia is Daniel Day Lewis confirmed

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Re: MoviePass

#316 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:47 pm

Ribs wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:46 pm
I also am generally of the opinion that multiplexes are actually good, and hate the common film person opinion they somehow denigrate the form. In particular, I've found most AMCs in my area made sure the projection was up to snuff when they renovated, and almost every screen looks noticeably better and properly good since then.
This doesn't respond to the primary issue I think most people [here] have with multiplexes, which is that they have a complete blind spot to a lot of smaller prestige cinema unless it's in the Oscar race. I could drive about an hour to find the nearest AMC to me that's playing First Reformed, or go 5 minutes from my house to an arthouse and see it. An hour and a half for Won't You Be My Neighbor?. And this disparity is sure to be worse in the fall. Even arthouse films people want to see are hard to find in multiplexes much of the time, outside of big cities like NYC that have AMC/Regals that try to cater to that sort of audience because they're in a major market.

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