155 Tokyo Olympiad

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#76 Post by swo17 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:23 pm


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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#77 Post by Close The Door, Raymond » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:33 pm

The "100 Years of Olympic Films" box set did not include any special features other than a book that includes notes on the films. Even Peter Cowie's audio commentary from the earlier DVD release is missing.

Thankfully, this re-issue will include this plus a few more.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#78 Post by movielocke » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:37 pm

is this the same cut as the 100 years set?

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#79 Post by swo17 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:40 pm

They're both listed as 170 minutes

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#80 Post by tenia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:01 am


Close The Door, Raymond wrote:Thankfully, this re-issue will include this plus a few more.
Quite frustrating to see the boxset disc is just the only barebones one between the old OOP DVD and the individual re-release. I guess it was expectable, though, but still.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#81 Post by Drucker » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:25 am

This hopefully bodes well for a standalone Olympia release, no? Which would make me quite happy I held off on the boxset.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#82 Post by Ribs » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:22 am

I think there’s a bit of a difficult Optics problem with that one that makes it being divorced from the wider Olympic context basically completely unfeasible as a release

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#83 Post by Drucker » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:30 pm

Well what ever could you mean?

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#84 Post by Big Ben » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:47 pm

I imagine it has to do with the fact that it was directed by Leni Riefenstahl. I don't think it's any more complex than that.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#85 Post by Drucker » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:52 pm

My comment was sarcastic, I do understand the issue.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#86 Post by CSM126 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:32 pm

Triumph of the Will can get released but Olympia can’t?

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#87 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:36 pm

Synapse isn’t trying to corner the woke market. That said, I think Olympia would manage to get a mainline Criterion release, they’d just include an apologetic extra examining it’s “problematic” existence

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#88 Post by Feego » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:02 pm

Ribs wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:22 am
I think there’s a bit of a difficult Optics problem with that one that makes it being divorced from the wider Olympic context basically completely unfeasible as a release
On the contrary, I think a stand-alone release of Olympia with critical and academic extras would be even more desirable than just leaving it as a puzzle piece in an otherwise "fun" sports package without context (other than the brief blurb in Cowie's book). I would happily buy it, despite already owning the box set and being pretty cool on the movie itself. I am fascinated by the making of it and the clashing of cultures with the victorious African-American athletes on Hitler's turf. A dedicated piece on Jesse Owens alone would be worth the price.

If I didn't already own the original Tokyo Olympiad DVD, I'd scoop up this new edition too.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#89 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:07 pm

Worth noting that some of the lore around Jesse Owens isn’t accurate, so indeed a historical piece honoring his real achievements by countering the false aspects that have nevertheless pervaded in the cultural consciousness would be most welcome

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#90 Post by movielocke » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:31 pm

maybe a mainline release about Jesse Owens with olympia as a bonus film?

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#91 Post by aox » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:31 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:07 pm
Worth noting that some of the lore around Jesse Owens isn’t accurate, so indeed a historical piece honoring his real achievements by countering the false aspects that have nevertheless pervaded in the cultural consciousness would be most welcome
Fantastic read. Thanks.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#92 Post by BigMack3000 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:41 pm

Whoa. The comments under that article are a wild ride.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#93 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:44 pm

You forgot the first rule of articles online: never read the comments!

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#94 Post by BigMack3000 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:04 pm

Yea, I think it was just the near unanimous tone that caught me off guard. Had to double check what site it was.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#95 Post by cdnchris » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm

Yeah, I'm used to comments taking a turn, but that wasn't the turn I was expecting.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#96 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:17 pm

I never knew anyone could be so invested in the state of others' foreskin

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#97 Post by Blutarsky » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:40 am

To add fire to the wanting of an Olympia standalone addition, there are certain indications as to Criterion pursuing that option in the future (especially with the impact of COVID-19). The most obvious clue is there is a Cowie audio interview present on Criterion Channel when searching for Olympia.

As for the controversy, it really depends on who you are talking to. Olympia is by far one of the most important, and for me, greatest films ever made. Its use of propaganda, technique, and overall coverage has impacted the games today, not to mention the politics of the situation. While the content, and frequent appearances by Hitler and the German high command are not welcomed, the best thing Criterion can include is that fabulous Leni Riefenstahl documentary The Wonderful Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl.

I must say though COVID-19 has given me opportunities to show films to my students I have been wanting to. I have planned an essay around segments of Olympia, and a final project around the history of the Olympics in times of unease.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#98 Post by Close The Door, Raymond » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:35 am

The release date was timed to coincide with the now-delayed Tokyo 2020 Olympics that has now been postponed to at least a year. The Criterion release, which was to capitalize on the marketing push riding on the Olympics media frenzy, will be about a year too early. It's one of countless other tie-in products that will have to be salvaged somehow.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

#99 Post by Yaanu » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:53 pm

Close The Door, Raymond wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:35 am
The release date was timed to coincide with the now-delayed Tokyo 2020 Olympics that has now been postponed to at least a year. The Criterion release, which was to capitalize on the marketing push riding on the Olympics media frenzy, will be about a year too early. It's one of countless other tie-in products that will have to be salvaged somehow.
Either they'll delay it and push it out again when the Olympics actually occur, or they'll release it now and advertise it later on.
Alternatively, they release it now and advertise it as an alternative to the now-delayed Tokyo Olympics.

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Re: 155 Tokyo Olympiad

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