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Alejandro González Iñárritu

#1 Post by DarkImbecile » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:05 pm

Alejandro González Iñárritu (1963 - )

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"In a world where irony reigns, where you have to separate, protect and laugh at anything that is honest or has an emotional charge, I bet for catharsis. I like to invest emotionally in things. And catharsis, when it touches the emotional vein, can open the doors of even those who protect themselves."

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Features
Amores perros (2000)
21 Grams (2003)
Babel (2006)
Biutiful (2010)
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) (2014)
The Revenant (2015)

Shorts
"El Timbre" (1996)
"Powder Keg" (2001) [segment, The Hire BMW advertising series]
"11'09"01 (2002) [segment, 11'09"01 September 11]
"ANNA" (2007) [segment, Chaucun son cinema]
"Naran Ja" (2012)
"Carne y arena" (2017)

Books
Babel: A Film by Alejandro González Iñárritu by Maria Eladia Hagerman, ed. (2006)
Alejandro González Iñárritu by Celestino Deleyto and Maria del Mar Azcona (2010)
The Three Amigos: The Transnational Filmmaking of Guillermo Del Toro, Alejandro González Iñárritu, and Alfonso Cuarón by Deborah Shaw (2015)

Web Resources
2000 interview with Jonathan Romney, The Guardian
Nearly a dozen appearances on Charlie Rose from 2003 to 2016
2003 interview with Scott Tobias, The A.V. Club
2003 interview with Karen Durbin, The New York Times
2003 interview with Wendy Mitchell, Indiewire
2006 audio interview with Melissa Block, NPR
2006 interview with Todd Gilchrist, IGN
2007 audio interview with Elvis Mitchell, The Treatment
2010 interview with Marshall Fine, Hollywood and Fine
2010 interview with Christina Radish, Collider
2010 interview with Drew Taylor, Indiewire
2011 interview with Russ Slater, Sounds and Colours
2014 interview with Elvis Mitchell, Interview Magazine
2014 interview with David Fear, Rolling Stone
2015 interview with Eugene Suen, Fuller Studio
2015 audio interview with Michael Keaton, Edward Norton, Naomi Watts, Emma Stone, Zach Galifianakis, and Amy Ryan, The Close-Up
2015 interview with Steven Mears, Film Comment
2015 interview with David Fear, Film Comment
"Alejandro G. Iñárritu: Hollywood's King of Pain" by Mark Binelli, Rolling Stone (2015)
2016 audio interview with Kurt Andersen, Director's Cut
2019 interview with Steve Chagollan, DGA Quarterly

Forum Resources
Babel (Alejandro González Iñárritu, 2006)
Birdman (Alejandro González Iñárritu, 2014)
The Revenant (Alejandro González Iñárritu, 2015)

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Re: New Films in Production, v.2

#2 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:23 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:05 pm
Alejandro González Iñárritu is developing a comedy about "the stupidity of men", according to this lengthy DGA Quarterly interview.
This is a great interview, thanks for posting

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Re: New Films in Production, v.2

#3 Post by DarkImbecile » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:43 pm

Agreed... having read several lengthy interviews and seen each speak at length in person, I think Iñárritu, Del Toro, and Cuaron are near the top of the list for filmmakers whose thoughts on film, storytelling, and art in general I enjoy hearing most — regardless of what one might think of their respective filmographies.

I know Iñárritu is particularly divisive, but it's hard to argue that he doesn't take risks on the kinds of projects the cinephile community is consistently clamoring for, or that he doesn't commit fully to those risks for better or worse. He's one of those directors for whom I can see and understand the criticisms of his work, while still finding his output consistently interesting and sometimes great, especially post-Arriaga.

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Re: New Films in Production, v.2

#4 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:53 pm

Iñárritu's bad reputation on this forum is due to a few vocal naysayers who unrelentingly pop up to say he sucks every time he's mentioned. But if one looks at overall top tens from the forum, his films are actually broadly well liked. Unfortunately those who like him are less likely to express it with the frequency of those who don't. For the record, I think he's easily one of our greatest currently working directors and I don't mind being on the front lines for that battle

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#5 Post by DarkImbecile » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 pm

Have you seen Biutiful? That's the only film of his I haven't seen, and I ordered the blu-ray after reading that interview; as the bridge between his more recent and more awarded work and the trilogy of non-chronological, intersecting timeline stories scripted by Arriaga, I'm curious about where it fits in his filmography.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#6 Post by swo17 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:15 pm

My strongest opinion about Iñárritu is that his last name is González Iñárritu

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#7 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:27 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 pm
Have you seen Biutiful? That's the only film of his I haven't seen, and I ordered the blu-ray after reading that interview; as the bridge between his more recent and more awarded work and the trilogy of non-chronological, intersecting timeline stories scripted by Arriaga, I'm curious about where it fits in his filmography.
It's been in my unwatched pile for years, maybe I'll bump it up in the queue in celebration of this dedicated thread!

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#8 Post by DarkImbecile » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:28 pm

swo17 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:15 pm
My strongest opinion about Iñárritu is that his last name is González Iñárritu
Ah, but he's officially credited on his most recent films as "Alejandro G. Iñárritu", which would seem to imply that he doesn't treat it that way, right?

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#9 Post by swo17 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:38 pm

I said it was an opinion

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Re: New Films in Production, v.2

#10 Post by dda1996a » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:33 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:53 pm
Iñárritu's bad reputation on this forum is due to a few vocal naysayers who unrelentingly pop up to say he sucks every time he's mentioned. But if one looks at overall top tens from the forum, his films are actually broadly well liked. Unfortunately those who like him are less likely to express it with the frequency of those who don't. For the record, I think he's easily one of our greatest currently working directors and I don't mind being on the front lines for that battle
As one who rather "dislikes" him, I'd say that I don't really hate any of his pictures. I just find his films incredibly filled to the brim with self-importance, while his two "American" post Biutiful films are just shallow imitations of far better films that I love. I would be perfectly fine where he wasnt winning Oscars left and right and being called a visionary. But hate him I don't.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#11 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:35 pm

Did I miss all the posts praising his films being removed from this forum or something?

The Revenant was OK. Looked pretty nice, Hardy's performance is stupendously good, and when DiCaprio gets back to town in the 3rd act it's totally stirring until the ending gets bungled.

I'll hold off on discussing the rest lest I clog the forum up with more negativity.

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Re: New Films in Production, v.2

#12 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:45 pm

dda1996a wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:33 pm
I would be perfectly fine where he wasnt winning Oscars left and right and being called a visionary.
This has probably amplified the negative criticism against him, but this is always the case. No one gets worked up about an unheralded artist that they don't like.

I think the worst take-down I've seen on Iñárritu came from the A.V. Club's review of Birdman. It was more about why the critic believed he was a hack and a fraud and less about the film's own merits (or lack thereof). It brought to mind Pitchfork's notoriously snotty review of Liz Phair's self-titled album - I didn't like it either, but their "assessment" of it was garbage.

Personally I like Birdman. The production itself is dazzling, and I'd say it's probably his best film because the context does alleviate his shortcomings as an artist.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#13 Post by Roscoe » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:49 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:05 pm
[lead post TK]

Alejandro González Iñárritu is developing a comedy about "the stupidity of men", according to this lengthy DGA Quarterly interview.
Talk about biting the hand that gives him Oscars.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#14 Post by knives » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:29 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 pm
Have you seen Biutiful? That's the only film of his I haven't seen, and I ordered the blu-ray after reading that interview; as the bridge between his more recent and more awarded work and the trilogy of non-chronological, intersecting timeline stories scripted by Arriaga, I'm curious about where it fits in his filmography.
It's a great film and what made me reconsider my previous dislike of him significantly softening my response to Babel for example. It basically takes the themes he was playing with up until that point and recast them in the magical realist mold he's done since. I might even go as far to say it is his best film. Honestly if not for his two shorts and 21 Grams I'd be with Domino on him being one of our greatest living filmmakers.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#15 Post by dda1996a » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:41 pm

I'm rather ok with his Death trilogy. Amores Perros is his best (Biutiful unseen), and even the other two, while incredibly morronic script-wise are saved by Inaritu's strong direction and fantastic cast. Take that as the best compliments I can conjure for him. I think he is a strong visualist, just that he rarely has anything new to say or shoot.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#16 Post by Persona » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:25 pm

I half-liked some of his earlier films like Amores Perros and Babel but have never had any desire to revisit them. 21 Grams particularly left a sour taste in my mouth and I think maybe was the start of me fundamentally mistrusting Inarritu as a storyteller or as an artist with any sort of real insight.

Biutiful is okay, didn't like Birdman, but The Revenant mostly works for me and I'd say I probably count that one as his best. It takes the technical strengths and applies them to a simple story (but one that doesn't feel done to death). Plus good performances from DiCaprio, Hardy, and the bear.

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Re: New Films in Production, v.2

#17 Post by Cameron Swift » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:48 pm

dda1996a wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:33 pm
As one who rather "dislikes" him, I'd say that I don't really hate any of his pictures. I just find his films incredibly filled to the brim with self-importance, while his two "American" post Biutiful films are just shallow imitations of far better films that I love. I would be perfectly fine where he wasnt winning Oscars left and right and being called a visionary. But hate him I don't.
What do you consider The Revenant to be a shallow imitation of? As someone who loves that film, I'm not asking to be argumentative but rather to get recommendations of similar, potentially just as good, or better, films of that ilk.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#18 Post by dda1996a » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:35 am

For me it was basically Malick, Herzog, Cuaron and Tarkovsky all in a film that lacked what makes each individual great.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#19 Post by Roscoe » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:46 am

dda1996a wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:35 am
For me it was basically Malick, Herzog, Cuaron and Tarkovsky all in a film that lacked what makes each individual great.
This in re: THE REVENANT -- I'd only go further and say THE REVENANT entirely lacked what made each individual and their films even remotely interesting for even a single twenty-fourth of a second.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#20 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:33 am

Boy, I don't know what I was thinking accusing this forum of hyperbolic animus

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#21 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:46 am

Roscoe wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:46 am
dda1996a wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:35 am
For me it was basically Malick, Herzog, Cuaron and Tarkovsky all in a film that lacked what makes each individual great.
This in re: THE REVENANT -- I'd only go further and say THE REVENANT entirely lacked what made each individual and their films even remotely interesting for even a single twenty-fourth of a second.
In terms of an artistic point of view, I'd agree with you, although the technical merits of that film are almost all off the charts. That wasn't enough to rescue the video game-y look and cliched flashback devices, etc. Which is a shame, because there's the components of an excellent film in that one, where I'd probably say that the others I've seen (21 Grams, Babel, and Birdman) stunk from the head.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#22 Post by Big Ben » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:49 am

I've only seen Babel, Birdman and The Revenant and the only one I really love is Birdman. Babel I thought was a bit overwrought for my tastes and Revenant lacked cohesion (Despite having some great set pieces.) in my mind particularly there at the end. I vastly preferred the other film set in a hellish winter landscape released that year, The Hateful Eight.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#23 Post by Roscoe » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 pm

I turned off BABEL because it just seemed a little too familiar with the multiple storyline schtick, the most memorable aspect of BIRDMAN was the cup of Sprite I thoroughly enjoyed while that foolishness was going on onscreen, and THE REVENANT was one of the most absolute wastes of my time and money in recent years. Some cool tech merits can't cover up the utter absence of anything else going on.

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#24 Post by Brian C » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:46 pm

Guy writing one-line dismissals of movies complains about them being superficial. No lack of self-awareness there!

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Re: Alejandro González Iñárritu

#25 Post by Roscoe » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:25 pm

Guy writing two-line dismissals of one-line dismissals jests about a lack of self-awareness....

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