Criterion OOP

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Re: Criterion OOP

#251 Post by Omensetter » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:58 pm

Essentially, yes, but this appears to be the first instance of a DVD release going out-of-print while the Blu release remains in print. I suppose Teshigahara is the closest comparison, although I do hope the entire box does eventually come back in print on both formats, with Pitfall and The Face of Another making their Blu debut.

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#252 Post by danieltiger » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:30 pm

Costa-Gavras' Z is now listed as OOP on criterion.com.

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#253 Post by Boosmahn » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:43 pm

Is now a time to be concerned that State of Siege may go OOP?

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#254 Post by danieltiger » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:44 pm

I would say yes. Also Missing.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#255 Post by domino harvey » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:52 pm

Z has long been expected to be upgraded, I wouldn't panic yet

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#256 Post by Ribs » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:09 pm

Guys, Z is a Janus title still streaming on Filmstruck. Film Forum has a playdate booked through Janus in October. It’s not going anywhere, its licensing is basically totally different than The Confession’s (and the same is true of Missing). Panicing won’t achieve anything. It was restored in 4K over 3 years ago; it’s a title that probably sells pretty well for what it is, all things being equal, so a Blu-ray’s always been a when rather than an if.

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#257 Post by KJones77 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:51 pm

This is terrific news about Z. Pretty much guarantees a forthcoming upgrade, no? Same thing that happened to Andrei Rublev before its upgrade announcement.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#258 Post by Minkin » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:15 pm

danieltiger wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:44 pm
I would say yes. Also Missing.
Missing is with Universal, so there's a 0% chance it would be affected by any of this.

I'm still incredibly wary about any of these Costa-Gavras OOP titles - and I suspect a Z upgrade is the most likely outcome (sounds like the sort of random upgrade that would be destined for a Dec release anyway).

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#259 Post by davidhuxley » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:25 pm

The Carl Th. Dreyer box is now officially out of print. So is the DVD edition of the Rossellini War Trilogy box.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#260 Post by Boosmahn » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:53 pm

Is Criterion trying to phase out DVD box-sets? First America Lost and Found, and now the War Trilogy?

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#261 Post by davidhuxley » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:21 pm

Boosmahn wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:53 pm
Is Criterion trying to phase out DVD box-sets? First America Lost and Found, and now the War Trilogy?
Perhaps the cost to reset the machines that manufacture the boxes is too prohibitive, without any guarantee of a return. Some of these DVDs must be gathering dust in the warehouse, and once the inventory is depleted, they determine it's not worth the cost to print another run. That may be why the Eisenstein, Antoine Doinel, BRD Trilogy, and now Dreyer boxes are OOP. They still have the rights to all of those films. And they never even published a DVD edition of the new version of THE COMPLETE MONTEREY POP, the Zatoichi box, the combined Brakhage anthologies, and the forthcoming Bergman box.

So to answer your question, I think they are phasing out DVD box sets.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#262 Post by McCrutchy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:36 pm

Boosmahn wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:53 pm
Is Criterion trying to phase out DVD box-sets? First America Lost and Found, and now the War Trilogy?
As I've posted before, I strongly suspect that Criterion's DVD sales have been steadily decreasing since they dropped the dual-format releases, and I would think that by now, the majority of Criterion's remaining DVD sales are library/institutional, and that those buyers prefer individual titles in individual packaging for obvious reasons.

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#263 Post by paulm » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:49 pm

Burden of Dreams DVD is listed as OOP on the Criterion website.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#264 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:33 pm

It must be getting reissued in some form considering that Criterion seems to have licensed the entire Flower Films library. I'll forever hang onto my copy as it's signed by the late Les Blank himself.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#265 Post by solaris72 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am

Certainly has seemed a no-brainer for a blu-ray upgrade both in content and popularity.

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#266 Post by danieltiger » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 pm

If Harrod Blank is to be believed, it is indeed being reissued on Blu at some point.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#267 Post by StevenWest » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:33 am

I'm a bit confused about editions with 'books'. I have Short Cuts, Two Lane Blacktop, Man Who Fell To Earth, and maybe a few more with books. And from what I'm garnering here is that if Criterion continues and/or reissues them, the books will always be omitted? Is there a list here or elsewhere of Criterion releases with books at one point, but have been sacrificed due to OOP or reissue?

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Re: Criterion OOP

#268 Post by swo17 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:43 am

It's case by case--for instance, Red River and Vampyr got reissued with their books intact

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Re: Criterion OOP

#269 Post by jazzo » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:08 pm

I can't really find any North american retailers with 49th Parallel in stock. Between printings, perhaps?

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Re: Criterion OOP

#270 Post by jazzo » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:11 pm

Actually, Criterion, itself, seems to have it, so scratch that.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#271 Post by Bando » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:47 pm

swo17 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:43 am
It's case by case--for instance, Red River and Vampyr got reissued with their books intact
Wasn't there an in-between phase when Vampyr was reissued sans book before it was reintroduced?

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Re: Criterion OOP

#272 Post by Minkin » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:56 am

StevenWest wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:33 am
I'm a bit confused about editions with 'books'. I have Short Cuts, Two Lane Blacktop, Man Who Fell To Earth, and maybe a few more with books. And from what I'm garnering here is that if Criterion continues and/or reissues them, the books will always be omitted? Is there a list here or elsewhere of Criterion releases with books at one point, but have been sacrificed due to OOP or reissue?
It needs some updating for 2018 and such, but I maintain this list.

In regards to the above about Vampyr - the DVD was reissued without the book, but then the blu-ray came out with the book. So the Blu has it, but the DVD does not (anymore).

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