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Cult Films

#1 Post by domino harvey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:31 pm

I didn't even know this was getting a Blu-ray release, but I Vitelloni's Blu-ray literally looks like a 360p YouTube upload

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#2 Post by jsteffe » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:49 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:31 pm
I didn't even know this was getting a Blu-ray release, but I Vitelloni's Blu-ray literally looks like a 360p YouTube upload
Are Cult Epics and Cult Films the same company?

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#3 Post by domino harvey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:56 pm

D'oh!

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#4 Post by Cremildo » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:44 pm

It beggars belief. Going by the screencaps, the old Criterion DVD is noticeably better than this new Blu-ray!

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#5 Post by Adam Grikepelis » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:14 pm

Cult Films are the UK company that released Suspiria last year.

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#6 Post by tenia » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:17 am

Wow, I guess I did well when I held off pre-ordering it a few days ago, remembering how much hit-and-miss Cult Films can be. :shock:
This is shockingly awful, especially for such a renowned movie. It looks like a pre-diluvian blown out over-contrasted print-sourced filtered out master. When a DVD beats your material, you should just refrain releasing it anyway.

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#7 Post by nitin » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:10 am

But how does the simultaneously released Cult Films DVD stack up?

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#8 Post by TMDaines » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:56 am

There's a reasonable 1080p WEB-DL of I vitelloni, which is currently the best way to watch it at home. Not sure of the source. US iTunes or Amazon perhaps?

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#9 Post by bergelson » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:05 am

Soon to be released by Studiocanal in Germany as part of their Fellini boxset. Surely, it would be the best release of this film.

https://www.amazon.de/Federico-Fellini- ... ds=fellini

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#10 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 pm

The picture quality of their Juliet of the Spirits unexpectedly looks good... but they transferred it in 1080i using a PAL source, so it has 4% speed-up... on a Blu-ray. Jesus Christ

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#11 Post by jsteffe » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:20 pm

It looks better than their Blu of I Vitelloni, but to my eyes it looks inferior to the old Criterion DVD. The Criterion DVD of Juliet looks darker and warmer, but it also has a richer, more filmic appearance and a wider range of colors. The Cult Films Blu-ray looks relatively flat and "digital," and it looks as if it has digital noise instead of grain. If given a choice, I'd take the overall look of the Criterion DVD over that of the Cult Films Blu-ray.

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#12 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:23 pm

Criterion looks yellow to me, not unlike many of their contentious transfers of recent years

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#13 Post by L.A. » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:37 pm

Is there anything worth getting from this company? :-k

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#14 Post by nitin » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:15 pm

The underlying Juliet master looks terrible, irrespective of the 1080i encoding.

LA, I believe their release of L’Innocente is actually quite decent.

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#15 Post by jsteffe » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:26 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:23 pm
Criterion looks yellow to me, not unlike many of their contentious transfers of recent years
I hear what you're saying, and it does look very yellow. Even if the Criterion DVD is arguably *too* yellow and too dark, it is not as destructive to the overall color scheme and contrast range as some of the more recent restorations from European labs that people (including me) have been complaining about. The question I still have is what the overall color scheme should look like for this particular film. It's possible that it should have a warmer overall look--or not. I imagine that there are some dye transfer prints that could serve as references.

Criterion has a streaming version of Juliet of the Spirits available on FilmStruck and Amazon. It is based on the Cinema Forever/Mediaset restoration. I am including some captures below to compare with the captures on DVD Beaver:

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#16 Post by tenia » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:50 am

It certainly seems better than I Vitelloni but I wouldnt say it looks good. As soon as you open the caps in a dedicated page to have them bigger, it shows that it hasn't many fine details. It's very disappointing.
EDIT : thanks James for the captures. It does look like they're much better than the CF disc. What a shame. Your second capture notably is quite telling : the CF disc looks like a SD upscale in comparison.
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#17 Post by L.A. » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:01 am

nitin wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:15 pm
LA, I believe their release of L’Innocente is actually quite decent.
Thanks for that. Amazon UK has it quite cheap at the moment. Also their next release appears to be Il Postino.

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#18 Post by L.A. » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:47 pm

L.A. wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:01 am
Also their next release appears to be Il Postino.
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