Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2301 Post by Ribs » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:31 pm

I thought I was being clear in joking considering I’ve been a totally crazy conspiracy theorist about it being pretty much exactly what was announced right up until today

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#2302 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:34 pm

Well, it’s time for Ribs to move on to his next avatar.

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#2303 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:37 pm

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#2304 Post by Omensetter » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:57 pm

Well, I hope they release at least Shame, Hour of the Wolf, and The Passion of Anna on DVD as standalones regardless.

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#2305 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:01 pm

DVD had a good run, but this might be fate telling you it's time to buy a Blu-ray player.

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#2306 Post by mpippia » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:20 pm

Phew! That's a relief. I was worried that nothing would appear and it would look like I was trolling. I'll remember to get screenshots straight away if I ever stumble across something again.

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#2307 Post by Omensetter » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:40 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:01 pm
DVD had a good run, but this might be fate telling you it's time to buy a Blu-ray player.
I should've excised the "on DVD" in the post to make it clear that I hope the films receive the traditional Criterion standalone, as I am sure they will in time (unless they're fans of leaving money on the table). I do purchase DVDs exclusively, though---for budgetary reasons---and that I can purchase Daughter of the Nile, La belle noiseuse, Three Brothers, Underground, films by Bill Gunn, et al. in 2018 is evidence enough for me that DVDs are still having a good run.

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#2308 Post by dda1996a » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:59 am

But I don't get it. Blu-rays aren't that more expensive, and if you're already buying home media and care about movies, especially of these sort, what's the point of still being dvd only?

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#2309 Post by Minkin » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:01 am

If Criterion is going to do a yearly ~30 disc boxset every November, I wonder what other things they can cover. I could see:

Wenders box
Almodovar box
Itami box
Ray box
Kinoshita 500 disc box
Harold Lloyd box
"Complete Bulldog Drummond" (my S/O would adore this) box
"Godzilla and Friends" box
"Hey look, we brought back all of those OOP Studio Canal titles in one go" box
"Everybody Wins the Criterionforum's monthly Quarantined Guessing Thread" box

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#2310 Post by Noodles1984 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:35 am

On the website of "MOSTRA INTERNAZIONALE D’ARTE CINEMATOGRAFICA DI VENEZIA" appeared the list of recently restored movies, two of them are in collaboration with Criterion, here they are:
MORTE A VENEZIA (Death in Venice)
di LUCHINO VISCONTI (Italia, Francia, USA, 1971, 130’ , Colore)
restauro: Cineteca di Bologna e Istituto Luce - Cinecittà in collaborazione con Warner Bros. e *The Criterion Collection*
SOME LIKE IT HOT [A QUALCUNO PIACE CALDO]
di BILLY WILDER (USA, 1959, 121', B/N)
restauro: Park Circus in collaborazione con Metro Goldwyn Mayer e *The Criterion Collection*
This titles will be released?
maybe soon?

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#2311 Post by KJones77 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:58 am

Noodles1984 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:35 am
On the website of "MOSTRA INTERNAZIONALE D’ARTE CINEMATOGRAFICA DI VENEZIA" appeared the list of recently restored movies, two of them are in collaboration with Criterion, here they are:
MORTE A VENEZIA (Death in Venice)
di LUCHINO VISCONTI (Italia, Francia, USA, 1971, 130’ , Colore)
restauro: Cineteca di Bologna e Istituto Luce - Cinecittà in collaborazione con Warner Bros. e *The Criterion Collection*
SOME LIKE IT HOT [A QUALCUNO PIACE CALDO]
di BILLY WILDER (USA, 1959, 121', B/N)
restauro: Park Circus in collaborazione con Metro Goldwyn Mayer e *The Criterion Collection*
This titles will be released?
maybe soon?
Death in Venice also happens to be one of those OOP Warner Bros titles rumored to be acquired by Criterion. Pretty much a certainty at this point.

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#2312 Post by dwk » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:28 am

Minkin wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:01 am
If Criterion is going to do a yearly ~30 disc boxset every November, I wonder what other things they can cover. I could see:
Kiarostami likely will be next year's big box set.

Purely speculative, but I could see a complete Truffaut set happening.

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#2313 Post by Noodles1984 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:32 am

Yes, it's very OOP, the biggest hope is to have, as i said before, Visconti German Trilogy Box...for a lot of reasons..The Damned is from MGM/Warner, it's OOP and even in Europe the Dvd is in bad quality often censored and rare, it was restored years ago by Cineteca but the restoration was never published(i don't know if 2k or 4k),then we have the OOP Death in Venice and Ludwig, published in a great blu release by Arrow...there is also the first movie of the director, Ossessione, now restored in 4k, the last dvd is great but a blu is necessary.

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#2314 Post by andyli » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:36 am

A Chaplin box could also happen next.

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#2315 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:43 am

It'll be 130 years since Chaplin's birth in 2019. This isn't really a sexy number, but it's round anyway. It'll be 80 years for Kiarostami and 75 for Wenders in 2020.

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#2316 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:06 pm

Fellini’s 100th is in 2020. He seems the most likely, I think. What I wouldn’t give, however, for an Ozu box.

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#2317 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:33 pm

Also interesting to note that 'The Ascent' is getting a new restoration from Mosfilm. Is a Criterion upgrade coming soon?

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#2318 Post by black&huge » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:47 pm

HinkyDinkyTruesmith wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:06 pm
Fellini’s 100th is in 2020. He seems the most likely, I think. What I wouldn’t give, however, for an Ozu box.
I hope this happens so we can finally get an upgrade of Juliet of the Spirits, a comeback/upgrade of Nights of Cabiria and Toby Dammit rightfully isolated and presented as its own short feature.

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#2319 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:52 pm

Fellini would make sense given that he is a titan of world cinema, but I'm not sure Criterion has the rights to enough of his films.

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#2320 Post by knives » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:00 pm

black&huge wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:47 pm
Toby Dammit rightfully isolated
No.

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#2321 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:14 pm

I think everyone is too distracted with theoretical box sets to care, but according to someone on the Blu-ray.com forums (hell on Earth, I know), someone curious about the rights to Jackie Chan's Police Story did a bit of sleuthing and claims that Janus Films owns the rights to it following the 4K restoration that played at MoMA.

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#2322 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:24 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:14 pm
I think everyone is too distracted with theoretical box sets to care, but according to someone on the Blu-ray.com forums (hell on Earth, I know), someone curious about the rights to Jackie Chan's Police Story did a bit of sleuthing and claims that Janus Films owns the rights to it following the 4K restoration that played at MoMA.
Do you have a link?

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#2323 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:24 pm

swo17 wrote:Fellini would make sense given that he is a titan of world cinema, but I'm not sure Criterion has the rights to enough of his films.
But they have enough to do a box. Especially if the 50s output gets all new restorations.

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#2324 Post by MongooseCmr » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:30 pm

I wouldn’t bank too hard on special anniversaries for box sets going forward. Harold Lloyd’s 125th birthday was last April, and since they’re clearly not rushing to give his films individual releases anymore I would guess the inevitable box set isn’t being timed for this year either.

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#2325 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:49 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:24 pm
The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:14 pm
I think everyone is too distracted with theoretical box sets to care, but according to someone on the Blu-ray.com forums (hell on Earth, I know), someone curious about the rights to Jackie Chan's Police Story did a bit of sleuthing and claims that Janus Films owns the rights to it following the 4K restoration that played at MoMA.
Do you have a link?
Forgot to include it with the original post. If you follow their posts, you'll see that they were trying to figure out the rights for a few weeks.

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