Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1551 Post by Altair » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:16 pm

Neither the old Studio Canal or the Universal releases were ideal (the former was edge-enhanced, the latter DNR'ed), so hopefully it's finally been treated right (and not pushed towards the teal-end of the colour spectrum, either...).

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#1552 Post by tenia » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20 pm

I'm more afraid about SC tendancies to DNR and very poorly encode their movies. In this case at least, putting the extras aside is a good sign (though most of them are probably in SD so it might seem a bit extreme).

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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1553 Post by Altair » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:32 pm

Their edition of the restored Ran however, was excellent (the colours were of course debatable, but not their fault), so I'm optimistic about the encode.

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#1554 Post by tenia » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:01 pm

Yes, they have some hits but also plenty of misses. They DNRed most of their French Bergman releases, FUBARed the encode on Le magnifique (French release), Highlander and The Man Who Fell To Earth (on top of missing the restoration), and of course there is their trainwrecks that are Terminator 2 and Purple Noon.
However, Ran was very good, and the utmost majority of their UK Vintage Classics are tremendous.

It's always been rumored they have 2 technical teams, one good and one not so much. Let's just hope in this case, they gave the project to the good one.

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#1555 Post by rapta » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:45 am

FWIW, their recent discs of Blood Simple, Mulholland Drive and The Graduate looked great to me. And I agree that Ran looked fantastic (colour debate aside).

It's a shame they got The Man Who Fell To Earth so wrong after getting The Third Man so right.

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#1556 Post by tenia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:15 am

The Graduate, MD and Blood Simple were restorations not performed by / for them. Mulholland Drive was performed at Colorworks / Fotokem, most have input from Deluxe Culver City or Colorworks and all 3 show input from Criterion's own Lee Kline.

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#1557 Post by Jonathan S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:42 am

rapta wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:45 am
…. after getting The Third Man so right.
Only on the image side, according to this analysis of the "restored" soundtrack.

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#1558 Post by rapta » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:02 am

tenia wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:15 am
The Graduate, MD and Blood Simple were restorations not performed by / for them. Mulholland Drive was performed at Colorworks / Fotokem, most have input from Deluxe Culver City or Colorworks and all 3 show input from Criterion's own Lee Kline.
Sorry I thought we were talking encodes (was already aware these were not examples of in-house restoration).

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#1559 Post by tenia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:06 am

rapta wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:02 am
tenia wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:15 am
The Graduate, MD and Blood Simple were restorations not performed by / for them. Mulholland Drive was performed at Colorworks / Fotokem, most have input from Deluxe Culver City or Colorworks and all 3 show input from Criterion's own Lee Kline.
Sorry I thought we were talking encodes (was already aware these were not examples of in-house restoration).
Ah OK, my bad then. Then yes, these encodes were very good (at least MD was performed by David Mackenzie), but they seem to be rather the exception than the rule. I'm for instance quite eager to see their new Dam Busters disc because it looks quite good but I can't understand why they would give such a new seemingly lavish restoration the same AVB than the previous disc, an AVS which is relatively mediocre (20.5 Mbps).
Jonathan S wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:42 am
rapta wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:45 am
…. after getting The Third Man so right.
Only on the image side, according to this analysis of the "restored" soundtrack.
We'll never thank Moshrom enough for his work on soundtracks and I hope he'll be able to do some more. It's probably the best investigative work there has been on AQ, which made me realise AQ analysis and review is like 15 years late compared to PQ.

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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1560 Post by Costa » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:12 am

Trailer for the new 4K restoration of The Deer Hunter.
I'm extremely happy that it doesn't seem that the film has been tealified!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7q1SjVdsNk

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