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Re: Twilight Time

#2701 Post by Gregory » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:34 pm

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Re: Twilight Time

#2702 Post by Ashirg » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:30 pm

Fixed..

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Re: Twilight Time

#2703 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:56 pm

That's better. :roll:

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Re: Twilight Time

#2704 Post by pointless » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:57 pm

Another Woman (Woody Allen, 1988)

Release Date: April 18th, 2017.
Pre-order date: Wednesday, April 5th at 4 pm EST.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2705 Post by pointless » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:01 pm

You'll Never Get Rich (Sidney Lanfield, 1941)

Release Date: April 18th, 2017.
Pre-order date: Wednesday, April 5th at 4 pm EST.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2706 Post by captveg » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:14 pm

Re: the attempted Interiors commentary: "Just as a point of accuracy, Woody Allen's office signed off on the commentary - it was the studio that got cold feet at the last minute - a shame as the commentary was very supportive of the film and everything that it accomplished as Mr A's first dramatic endeavor." Via this post

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Re: Twilight Time

#2707 Post by domino harvey » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:15 pm

Uh huh, sure

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Re: Twilight Time

#2708 Post by captveg » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:20 pm

Now sold out:

The Bounty (1984)
Richard III (1995)


Low quantity update for twilighttimemovies.com only (SAE stock unclear):

Less than 50 copies remaining:

Bonjour Tristesse
Follow That Dream
Front, The
Mindwarp

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Birdman of Alcatraz
Happy Ending, The
Inherit the Wind

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Re: Twilight Time

#2709 Post by J M Powell » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:54 am

captveg wrote:Re: the attempted Interiors commentary: "Just as a point of accuracy, Woody Allen's office signed off on the commentary - it was the studio that got cold feet at the last minute - a shame as the commentary was very supportive of the film and everything that it accomplished as Mr A's first dramatic endeavor." Via this post
Redman might not be the most reliable source of objective information, but to me this is completely plausible. If the "no supplements" policy is actually part of a contract between Allen and the studio, then even if Allen's office approved the supplement for whatever reason, the studio's legal department might nix the possibility unless the contract were revised. And TT's whole business model is based around minimizing any effort whatsoever on the part of the studios licensing to TT, so they might think it's not worth it to re-draft the contract (especially since TT pays up front so the studio doesn't really care about whether TT sells more copies as a result of added-value supplements).

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Re: Twilight Time

#2710 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:50 am

Nah, Redman sounds like he is trying to save face. Why would MGM get cold feet if the Allen folks approved the commentary, which they (Allen's folks) would most likely have relayed to MGM. With Allen being notoriously anti-supplements for his releases wouldn't all parties communicating be a priority.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2711 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:13 pm

That Allen would tell Criterion no to supplements but be A-OK with a shithole boutique label is Pizzagate-level believable

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Re: Twilight Time

#2712 Post by swo17 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:15 pm

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Re: Twilight Time

#2713 Post by knives » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:19 pm

Though don't trust everything the fisherman says.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2714 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:45 pm

The track being removed from the release (period) is evidence enough for me that TT is lying. If Allen actually wanted it, it'd be on there.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2715 Post by captveg » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:51 pm

Having been in the home video industry for 15 years I would absolutely believe a rejection by legal at MGM. I've seen some remarkably absurd reasons legal has rejected something on a release over the years.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2716 Post by swo17 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:52 pm

Legal reason: Woody Allen will sue us if we put this out.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2717 Post by captveg » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:56 pm

You guys really believe they got to the announcement phase without clearing it with Allen? I know you guys see Redman as the devil and all, but do you actually think he's that obtuse? To me that simply strains reason.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2718 Post by Drucker » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:27 pm

Arrow folks have already confirmed they needed to get in writing approval just to get written supplementary material on this Allen release. Hard to believe anyone okayed anything on disc.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2719 Post by captveg » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:29 pm

This wasn't TT's first rodeo with Allen. Presumably they would have also gone through the same process to clear all the written material on their previous Allen releases, and Interiors, too.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2720 Post by Jameson281 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:42 pm

Allen's reps signed off on the packaging without noticing the mention of a commentary on the back. They never listened to it, and certainly never "approved" it.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2721 Post by Brian C » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:47 pm

captveg wrote:This wasn't TT's first rodeo with Allen. Presumably they would have also gone through the same process to clear all the written material on their previous Allen releases, and Interiors, too.
Most likely to me is that TT tried to pull a fast one on Allen's people, sneaking commentary approval in with the approval for the written material, and got Allen's office to sign off on the commentary without realizing what they were doing. Then the announcement is made, shit hits the fan, and TT pulls it.

It's consistent both with TT's statement and Allen's (well-known and unlikely to change) aversion to supplements.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2722 Post by captveg » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:23 pm

If that was the case I think Redman would have just said Allen's people got cold feet at the last minute rather than the studio. There's no reason to make the distinction otherwise, unless one has the conspiracy tinfoil hat on.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2723 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:22 pm

Other than the entire history of Allen's well-established predilections towards this, sure

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Re: Twilight Time

#2724 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:49 pm

It sounds a lot better to say "those damned studio meddlers stopped us from giving you the best possible edition" than to say "we tried to go against the filmmaker's repeatedly expressed wishes and got caught." If it were anybody but Twilight Time* I would be reluctant to assign such a crude, face-saving motivation, but, well, it's Twilight Time.

*Maybe Mr. Bongo too
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Re: Twilight Time

#2725 Post by captveg » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:51 pm

Well, whatever. I find it... odd to consider someone a liar because one disagrees with their business model.

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