Olive Films
- hearthesilence
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Re: Olive Films
FWIW, I had a BD with a clear manufacturing defect, so I called up Olive to get it rectified. (If you go to their site, they list all their contact info accompanied by some friendly boilerplate, encouraging you to contact them.) They did absolutely nothing. The bare-bones approach to their releases seems to be the philosophical foundation of the whole company, because unless they issued a recall (have they ever done that?), they said they wouldn't do anything. For comparison's sake, three companies I've contacted regarding defective media are Criterion, Rhino Records (before they were gutted and became a perfunctory Warner label) and Audio Fidelity, and they all worked with you, they gave you a good, reasonable pathway to getting a replacement if your item was defective. In other words, they were the complete opposite of Olive. It's ridiculous because they're a small label, which makes them more dependent on customer relations.
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Olive Films
I seem to remember Tag Gallagher offered them a video essay for The Sun Shines Bright but was turned down or ignored - here's hoping they get back round to it with an Olive Signature re-release
- hearthesilence
- Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:22 am
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Re: Olive Films
I didn't realize Olive released Leo McCarey's Good Sam but MoMA just screened a longer 130 minute cut this weekend. I was still finding a seat during the introductory comments, so I wasn't fully paying attention, but apparently this cut was the one deposited with the Library of Congress. What they screened was a new scan of a 16mm dupe - apparently somewhere down the line, the dupe was made so that the nitrate could be (regrettably) destroyed, or rather recycled as fertilizer. A policy since discontinued, they apparently did this to kill two birds with one stone - destroying what was considered dangerous material and to help out the Department of Agriculture. It definitely looks like a dupe, but still very watchable. Supposedly the biggest difference with that more improvised bits were left in.
I've yet to see the theatrical version but this was quite good, almost a tongue in cheek wag at Frank Capra, and I much prefer it to Mr. Deeds Goes to Town - Cooper is marvelously charming here as a very sweet and decent pushover who's quite lustful for his wife.
I've yet to see the theatrical version but this was quite good, almost a tongue in cheek wag at Frank Capra, and I much prefer it to Mr. Deeds Goes to Town - Cooper is marvelously charming here as a very sweet and decent pushover who's quite lustful for his wife.
- hearthesilence
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- rockysds
- Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 11:25 am
- Location: Denmark
Re: Olive Films
Strategic Air Command, Villa Rides, Special Effects, Return of Dracula, Little Fauss & Big Halsy, Gas-S-S-S and a couple of recent Korean films: Fake and King of Pigs coming in October.
- FrauBlucher
- Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
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Re: Olive Films
The Quiet Man and The Night of the Grizzly are the next to get the Signature Series treatment.
The Quiet Man:
Mastered from 4K scan of original camera negative
Audio commentary with John Ford biographer Joseph McBride
Tribute to Maureen O’Hara with Ally Sheedy, Hayley Mills, and Juliet Mills
“Don’t You Remember It, Seánín?: John Ford’s The Quiet Man” – a visual essay by historian and John Ford expert Tag Gallagher
“Free Republic: The Story of Herbert J. Yates and Republic Pictures”
“The Old Man: Remembering John Ford” – an appreciation of the director with Peter Bogdanovich
“The Making of The Quiet Man” – Written and hosted by Leonard Maltin
YEAR: 1952
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH (with Optional English subtitles)
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 129 mins
RATING: N/R
VIDEO: 1.37:1 Aspect Ratio; COLOR
AUDIO: MONO
Coming to DVD and Blu-ray October 25th.
The Quiet Man:
Mastered from 4K scan of original camera negative
Audio commentary with John Ford biographer Joseph McBride
Tribute to Maureen O’Hara with Ally Sheedy, Hayley Mills, and Juliet Mills
“Don’t You Remember It, Seánín?: John Ford’s The Quiet Man” – a visual essay by historian and John Ford expert Tag Gallagher
“Free Republic: The Story of Herbert J. Yates and Republic Pictures”
“The Old Man: Remembering John Ford” – an appreciation of the director with Peter Bogdanovich
“The Making of The Quiet Man” – Written and hosted by Leonard Maltin
YEAR: 1952
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH (with Optional English subtitles)
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 129 mins
RATING: N/R
VIDEO: 1.37:1 Aspect Ratio; COLOR
AUDIO: MONO
Coming to DVD and Blu-ray October 25th.
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
- Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 9:37 am
Re: Olive Films
I am now perplexed. I could have sworn the Quiet Man was from the 4k Paramount restoration, and the notion that there was some restoration that Olive hadn't used was a myth.
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- perkizitore
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Re: Olive Films
I was hoping for Innisfree, but they are not even including Dreaming the Quiet Man!
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Re: Olive Films
No one has actually said it wasn't.Drucker wrote:I am now perplexed. I could have sworn the Quiet Man was from the 4k Paramount restoration
I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Great they're doing the Signature Editions, but it is, after all, still Olive.perkizitore wrote:I was hoping for Innisfree, but they are not even including Dreaming the Quiet Man!
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
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Re: Olive Films
So this is just presumably a properly encoded version of their old release, now with extras?
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Re: Olive Films
Well, I own the MoC release and while the encoding is better than the Olive version and I can't believe that it can looks even better on a blu-ray (I though too that the previous Olive was from a x4 restoration).
Well, if they can't do better I won't complain, but I'm really curious to see how it could look better since this is one of the most stunning technicolor restoration I've ever seen on blu-ray.
Well, if they can't do better I won't complain, but I'm really curious to see how it could look better since this is one of the most stunning technicolor restoration I've ever seen on blu-ray.
- captveg
- Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:28 pm
Re: Olive Films
11/15/16
Carrington (1995) - MGM
Coffee and Cigarettes (2003) - MGM
Houdini (1953) - Paramount (previously released by Legend)
J'accuse! (1938)
Lulu Belle (1948) - Republic/Paramount
One of Our Aircraft Is Missing (1942) - Republic/Paramount
Pimpernel Smith (1941) - MGM
I seem to recall that One of Our Aircraft Is Missing was previously rejected due to poor elements.
Anyone know who they would have licensed J'accuse! from?
Carrington (1995) - MGM
Coffee and Cigarettes (2003) - MGM
Houdini (1953) - Paramount (previously released by Legend)
J'accuse! (1938)
Lulu Belle (1948) - Republic/Paramount
One of Our Aircraft Is Missing (1942) - Republic/Paramount
Pimpernel Smith (1941) - MGM
I seem to recall that One of Our Aircraft Is Missing was previously rejected due to poor elements.
Anyone know who they would have licensed J'accuse! from?
- barryconvex
- billy..biff..scooter....tommy
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Re: Olive Films
Zinnemann made a few good films-- Oklahoma, A Hatful of Rain, the Nun's Story...
Don't forget Act of Violence, one of the greatest of all noirs.
Day Of The Jackal anyone?Behold a Pale Horse is also surprisingly good as is some of his shorts.
- RobertB
- Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:00 pm
- Location: Sweden
Re: Olive Films
I went to a screening two years ago, and posted in the Flicker Alley thread. This is what I posted:captveg wrote:11/15/16
Carrington (1995) - MGM
Coffee and Cigarettes (2003) - MGM
Houdini (1953) - Paramount (previously released by Legend)
J'accuse! (1938)
Lulu Belle (1948) - Republic/Paramount
One of Our Aircraft Is Missing (1942) - Republic/Paramount
Pimpernel Smith (1941) - MGM
I seem to recall that One of Our Aircraft Is Missing was previously rejected due to poor elements.
Anyone know who they would have licensed J'accuse! from?
"Just came back from a screening of Gance´s j'accuse. It was a 2K scan from Lobster and Flicker Alley based on the 2008 restoration. English intertitles, unless where they are artistic. This seems ready for a blu-ray release."
- tenia
- Ask Me About My Bassoon
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Re: Olive Films
Interestingly, Gaumont is handling the 1938 version Blu Ray French release (so far expected for december 2016), while Lobster released the 1919 version end of 2014.
- RobertB
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Re: Olive Films
Silly me. I missed that it was the 1938 version.
- FrauBlucher
- Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
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Re: Olive Films
MacBeth and Hannie Caulder are the November Signature Seris titles.
MacBeth extras.....
-New High-Definition digital restoration
Includes 1948 and 1950 versions
-Audio Commentary with Welles biographer Joseph McBride
-“Welles and Shakespeare” – an interview with Welles expert, Professor Michael Anderegg
-“Adapting Shakespeare on Film” – a conversation with directors Carlo Carlei (Romeo & Juliet) and Billy Morrissette (Scotland, PA)
-Excerpt from We Work Again, a 1937 WPA documentary containing scenes from Welles’ Federal Theatre Project production of Macbeth
-“That Was Orson Welles” – an interview with Welles’ close friend and co-author, Peter Bogdanovich
-“Restoring Macbeth” – an interview with former UCLA Film & Television Archive Preservation Officer Bob Gitt
-“Free Republic: The Story of Herbert J. Yates and Republic Pictures”
-“The Two Macbeths” – an essay by critic Jonathan Rosenbaum
Annie Caulder extras.....
-New High-Definition digital restoration
-Audio Commentary by Western expert Alex Cox (Walker, Repo Man)
-“Exploitation or Redemption?” – an examination of rape-revenge movies by film scholar Ben Sher
-“A Very British Horror Studio” – interview with Sir Christopher Frayling on the history of Tigon Studios
-Essay by film critic Miriam Bale
MacBeth extras.....
-New High-Definition digital restoration
Includes 1948 and 1950 versions
-Audio Commentary with Welles biographer Joseph McBride
-“Welles and Shakespeare” – an interview with Welles expert, Professor Michael Anderegg
-“Adapting Shakespeare on Film” – a conversation with directors Carlo Carlei (Romeo & Juliet) and Billy Morrissette (Scotland, PA)
-Excerpt from We Work Again, a 1937 WPA documentary containing scenes from Welles’ Federal Theatre Project production of Macbeth
-“That Was Orson Welles” – an interview with Welles’ close friend and co-author, Peter Bogdanovich
-“Restoring Macbeth” – an interview with former UCLA Film & Television Archive Preservation Officer Bob Gitt
-“Free Republic: The Story of Herbert J. Yates and Republic Pictures”
-“The Two Macbeths” – an essay by critic Jonathan Rosenbaum
Annie Caulder extras.....
-New High-Definition digital restoration
-Audio Commentary by Western expert Alex Cox (Walker, Repo Man)
-“Exploitation or Redemption?” – an examination of rape-revenge movies by film scholar Ben Sher
-“A Very British Horror Studio” – interview with Sir Christopher Frayling on the history of Tigon Studios
-Essay by film critic Miriam Bale
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: Olive Films
Great sounding extras for MacBeth, and I don't even care for the film! I care even less for Hannie Caulder, though-- what an inexplicable choice to upgrade to this line
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Re: Olive Films
The original release of Hannie Caulder was unwatchable, complete shit. Of course I just bought it during that last Olive sale. It's now a coaster so I'm glad for this upgrade.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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Re: Olive Films
But it's still the same filmEtimh wrote:The original release of Hannie Caulder was unwatchable, complete shit. Of course I just bought it during that last Olive sale. It's now a coaster so I'm glad for this upgrade.
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
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Re: Olive Films
So there doesn't appear to actually be a new restoration of any of these films, with the noticeable and welcome exception of Johnny Guitar, we're just getting the same master but this time with extras. Pretty weird but I suppose there will be a market for it.
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Re: Olive Films
Are you saying that it'll be the same film (that you're not interested in), or that the new release will use the same source material (with no fix to the terrible audio problem)?domino harvey wrote: But it's still the same film
You'd think they'd at least fix that on a new release, knowing that everyone feels it was a problem. I can't even believe that they continued to sell the thing, knowing how bad it was.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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Re: Olive Films
I was being a smartass, so the former, but as Drucker pointed out, either reading may apply given that there's no mention of a new remaster (saying there's "digital restoration" is the same thing Alpha and other PD bandits say, it means nothing on its own, though one would think any known issues in the first release would be addressed by a deluxe release like this)
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Re: Olive Films
When I asked about this on FB, they replied:Drucker wrote:So there doesn't appear to actually be a new restoration of any of these films... We're just getting the same master but this time with extras.
They're from the same masters, but we've done a good deal of digital restoration on them. They'll be visually improved over the old Blu-rays, in addition to the bonus features, subtitles, and new art
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
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Re: Olive Films
Wait, surely at least Johnny Guitar is coming from the new 4k restoration that toured theatrically right?