Star Wars: Original & Prequel Trilogies (1977-∞)

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Re: Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

#501 Post by Big Ben » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:10 pm

Kirkinson wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:58 pm
Disney is bringing back the Clone Wars animated series for a 7th season (which was actually already in production when the show was canceled four years ago) on their upcoming streaming service. I wouldn't be surprised if this is at least partly an effort to assuage some of the angrier elements of the fandom, who generally seem to hold the series in high regard.
I've never seen the show but I know people who have and they really seemed to like it. A worthwhile dish to serve to people.

I'm quite interested in seeing where this whole streaming service thing goes now that Disney deal is going to go through with the Fox stuff. If they put considerable effort into it it might be be quite a thing (I imagine having older seasons of The Simpsons in the correct Aspect Ratio would delight even the coldest of hearts on this forum.).

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Re: Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

#502 Post by Kirkinson » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:22 pm

I've seen a highly curated selection of it and it wasn't bad. I think it's at least an improvement over the actual prequel films, particularly in its portrayal of Anakin, who seems far more like the character Obi-Wan reminisces about in A New Hope than the version we got to see in the movies. It also gets much weirder in the mystical side of the force than any other incarnation of Star Wars, which I like.

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Re: Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

#503 Post by Big Ben » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:52 pm

Kirkinson wrote:
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I've seen a highly curated selection of it and it wasn't bad. I think it's at least an improvement over the actual prequel films, particularly in its portrayal of Anakin, who seems far more like the character Obi-Wan reminisces about in A New Hope than the version we got to see in the movies. It also gets much weirder in the mystical side of the force than any other incarnation of Star Wars, which I like.
From what I was told Padme in particular seems to have been redeemed somewhat insofar that she's far more competent. I wasn't aware it made Anakin less...well like he is in the live action films. Not sure if I'll watch it but I think it's good that these characters have at least been fleshed out more.

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#504 Post by All the Best People » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:06 pm

Kirkinson wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:22 pm
I've seen a highly curated selection of it and it wasn't bad. I think it's at least an improvement over the actual prequel films, particularly in its portrayal of Anakin, who seems far more like the character Obi-Wan reminisces about in A New Hope than the version we got to see in the movies. It also gets much weirder in the mystical side of the force than any other incarnation of Star Wars, which I like.
Who/what provided the curation? I've tried checking out the series a few times, but the first few episodes skew so young that they are really a slog, and I never get into it. But I'm curious about some of the arcs people seem to love.

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#505 Post by aox » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:38 pm

Yeah, I would love to see an essential episodes list for the Clone Wars that omits the filler. I can't get into the series at all.

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#506 Post by Kirkinson » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:29 am

I basically looked at a few articles and videos that talked about the best episodes and used that to construct my own program based on what seemed interesting. I think I started with this one from Nerdist, though I skipped the theatrical film, which most other sources seemed to agree was not worth it. I know I used this one as well, though with more mixed results. And here's a longer recommendation list from Kotaku in chronological order (the actual timeline of the series jumps around a lot).

The storylines I liked the most, all of which are mentioned in that first Nerdist article, were the Mortis trilogy (S3E15-17), the Umbara Arc (S4E07-10), the final story arc concerning Anakin's apprentice, Ahsoka Tano (S5E17-20), a couple of clones almost uncovering their true purpose (S6E01-04), and Yoda learning weird things in weird places (S6E11-13).

The Mortis trilogy is probably the craziest thing in the series, and while I personally love how strange it gets, I would not blame anyone who thought it was the stupidest Star Wars content ever, so it's probably not what I would suggest watching first. Ahsoka's final plotline (until she appears again in the new season and on Rebels) is probably the series' emotional high point, and also a really good illustration of how the Jedi Order in this era is actually kind of terrible. (Incorporating the events of this story into Anakin's ultimate betrayal in Revenge of the Sith would have helped his character arc immensely.) The Yoda episodes also do some heavy lifting for the saga, in that they explain why there aren't hundreds of thousands of Jedi force ghosts popping up all over the place all the time, and also attempt to bridge the somewhat different personalities and philosophical views expressed by Yoda in the prequels vs. the original trilogy. They also bring back Liam Neeson and feature a cameo by Mark Hamill (not as Luke). And speaking of cameos, the Umbara Arc features a single episode directed by Walter Murch for some reason (his only directing credit aside from Return to Oz).

I also watched most of the Darth Maul stories, which seem to be fan favorites, but they didn't do much for me. That said, he appeared a lot on the show, and his episodes form a huge chunk of what people tend to say is the best of the series, so YMMV. I think the Kotaku list I linked to above includes all of them (and pointedly excludes the Mortis arc!). He's also all but certain to return in the new season based on what's already public knowledge of the storylines they had planned. Another fan favorite arc that I couldn't get into (and never finished) is the one where Kenobi goes undercover as a bounty hunter — possibly owing to my ongoing ambivalence regarding every bounty hunter character that has ever existed in this franchise.

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Re: Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

#507 Post by jindianajonz » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:12 am

My favorite is Landing at Point Rain, which is straightforward battle episode that felt very at home among the most adrenaline fueled scenes in the feature films. But for the most part, this show always aims primarily at children, and the irritating habit of trying to provide a lesson at the end of a story lingers for a frustratingly long time, and surprises you in later seasons when you start to think they are beyond that. Thankfully the follow on series Rebels remedies this.

Some other good picks are any episodes that feature Hondo or Cad Bane.

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Re: Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

#508 Post by jklugman » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:02 pm

I am partial to "Spy Senate" (season 2, episode 4) which is an extended homage to Hitchcock's Notorious, down to the final shot.

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#509 Post by All the Best People » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:19 am

I actually at one point did get through the Clone Wars movie over the course of several sittings, and it was not good, and also continued Apocrypha II's heresy that Artoo can fly.

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#510 Post by hanshotfirst1138 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:25 am

All the Best People wrote:I actually at one point did get through the Clone Wars movie over the course of several sittings, and it was not good, and also continued Apocrypha II's heresy that Artoo can fly.
Doesn’t he kind of fly in Attack of the Clones?

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Re: Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

#511 Post by Kirkinson » Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:10 pm

That’s what ATBP is referring to as “Apocrypha II”.

I think I read that at some point some book or something retconned his jets being removed.... R2-D2 really is the Star Wars universe’s biggest mess, given the people he interacted with in the prequel era who show no sign of recognition later on, and all the important information he should already know that he evidently chooses not to divulge to the other characters!

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#512 Post by domino harvey » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:10 am

Trailer for Star Wars Resistance, an animated prequel series with Oscar Isaac reprising his role as Poe Dameron

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#513 Post by bearcuborg » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:56 am

Rian Johnson confirmed that he his still working on his trilogy. Disney and Kennedy shocked me with this one, given all the projects that have been halted or delayed. Ewan has also stated that Obi Wan is not in the works yet...

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#514 Post by What A Disgrace » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:09 pm

In addition to being honored with a Thalberg next year and much to the chagrin of people who were certain she was getting the axe, Kathleen Kennedy's contractat Lucasfilm has been extended another three years.


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