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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:05 am 
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Roberts (who, for me, will always be Midge from That '70s Show) is definitely one of the 5 bottom-of-the-barrel Bond heroines; the others being Jane Seymour as the utterly helpless Solitaire in "Live and Let Die," Britt Ekland as the bumbling Mary Goodnight in "The Man with the Golden Gun," Maryam d'Abo as the incredibly bland and unmemorable Kara Milovy in "The Living Daylights," and Denise Richards as the *ahem* rocket scientist Christmas Jones in "The World Is Not Enough." :-s

Roberts and Grace Jones would almost certainly qualify under the 'Rule of Two' that's been in place for the series from "Licence to Kill" onward, where there are 2 prominent Bond girls -- one 'good' (who's the heroine and ends up assisting Bond throughout the movie... and usually ends up with him at the end; Olga Kurylenko and Naomie Harris beings the exceptions), one 'bad' (who's either a henchwoman or the villain's mistress... and who usually dies at some point; Talisa Soto and Monica Bellucci being the exceptions). Ekland and Maud Adams in "Golden Gun" also fit this bill.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:30 am 
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Maybe I’m being kind, but I always saw Denise Richard‘s casting as a self-aware in-joke to counteract the dark nature of Sophie Marceau‘s role. Marceau is the main girl in that film and in a rare twist turns out to also be the main villain. She‘s among my favourites.

The first half of the 70s reflected the sexism of the decade by featuring a number of useless Bond girl. Then feminism took a hold on mainstream culture. Barbara Bach‘s Russian agent in The Spy Who Loved Me was the first Bond girl who genuinely was Bond‘s equal and who had almost as much screen time as he had. There were some strong Bond girls in the 60s like Bond‘s wife Tracy and Goldfinger’s Pussy Galore, but they were absent from the plot for most of the film.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:13 am 
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Lost Highway wrote:
Maybe I’m being kind, but I always saw Denise Richard‘s casting as a self-aware in-joke to counteract the dark nature of Sophie Marceau‘s role. Marceau is the main girl in that film and in a rare twist turns out to also be the main villain. She‘s among my favourites.

In a way, it reminds of GoldenEye where Famke Janssen is way more interesting and memorable than Izabella Scorupco (whose name I had to find back on Google).

However, I totally forgot about D'Abo in The Living Daylights, which is a shame because the movie is quite good, so you'd think the Bond Girl is too.

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Barbara Bach‘s Russian agent in The Spy Who Loved Me was the first Bond girl who genuinely was Bond‘s equal and who had almost as much screen time as he had.

That's part of why Spy feels so breezy to me. There's so kind of back-and-forth exchanges within the movie between Moore, Bach, Jürgens, Kiel and Munro that it feels like there are, for once, more than just a few interesting characters (mostly Bond) but more than this. It helps giving flesh to the movie, more than usual within the franchise.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:01 am 
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tenia wrote:
Lost Highway wrote:
Maybe I’m being kind, but I always saw Denise Richard‘s casting as a self-aware in-joke to counteract the dark nature of Sophie Marceau‘s role. Marceau is the main girl in that film and in a rare twist turns out to also be the main villain. She‘s among my favourites.

In a way, it reminds of GoldenEye where Famke Janssen is way more interesting and memorable than Izabella Scorupco (whose name I had to find back on Google).

However, I totally forgot about D'Abo in The Living Daylights, which is a shame because the movie is quite good, so you'd think the Bond Girl is too.

Lost Highway wrote:
Barbara Bach‘s Russian agent in The Spy Who Loved Me was the first Bond girl who genuinely was Bond‘s equal and who had almost as much screen time as he had.

That's part of why Spy feels so breezy to me. There's so kind of back-and-forth exchanges within the movie between Moore, Bach, Jürgens, Kiel and Munro that it feels like there are, for once, more than just a few interesting characters (mostly Bond) but more than this. It helps giving flesh to the movie, more than usual within the franchise.

I thought Izabella Scorupco was likeable enough and fine in her role. Janssen‘s psycho was of course a lot more fun and a star was born. I still think it’s a shame they squandered the Dark Phoenix plotline in X-Men 3 by relegating her to the background. D‘Abo was a little bland but at least not Britt Ekland/Tanya Roberts level annoying.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:12 am 
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Scorupco is fine and likeable, but compared to what they've done with Janssen and her Onatopp, she comes off as extremely bland, almost transparent. She's not helped by her first scenes in Siberia where she comes off as particularly helpless and not particularly resourceful (but very lucky, though).


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:06 pm 
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Boyle might be out


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:14 pm 
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The article doesn’t seem aware that Boyle signed on to this project planning to make this movie and then very quickly turn around and do Bond assuming he likes how the script turns out to his liking. This seems to line up exactly with the schedule as we understood it a month ago.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:25 am 
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flyonthewall2983 wrote:

Yay! :D


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