Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
- therewillbeblus
- Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:40 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
Somehow this looks even worse now. The idea that a large proportion of audiences will laugh at lines like "Cat got your tongue" or "Don't mess with this crazy cat lady" is perhaps more unsettling than the Adam Sandler Netflix numbers.
domino, the Bogdanovich in me wants to be optimistic too. I really hope this bombs if only so that my faith in humanity can be briefly restored.
domino, the Bogdanovich in me wants to be optimistic too. I really hope this bombs if only so that my faith in humanity can be briefly restored.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
This is opening the same weekend as Star Wars too... like, this is some kind of tax scam from the studio, right?
- mfunk9786
- Under Chris' Protection
- Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 4:43 pm
- Location: Philadelphia, PA
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
Will make the bombing all the more satisfying.domino harvey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:15 pmI've been wrong before, but no way this is a hit
EDIT: Holy shit, I just read the budget for this film is $300 MILLION DOLLARS
- Altair
- Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:56 pm
- Location: England
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
I hope I'm wrong, but this appeals to a very different audience than Star Wars - it's actually potentially quite canny counter-programming. It will bring audiences who probably don't go to the cinema very often. I'm sure Universal think this will appeal to women, older people, musical fans, Taylor Swift fans - a coalition not likely to be too swayed by Star Wars. In that sense, this is really closer to films such as Mamma Mia or Hooper's own Les Miserables.
- The Fanciful Norwegian
- Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:24 pm
- Location: Teegeeack
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
There is an argument for this as counterprogramming, but the roughly $700 million it would need to recoup a $300m budget (plus marketing and distribution) has never been attained by a musical outside of Disney movies and Bohemian Rhapsody. That said, I'm leery of the $300m figure, given that the source is a Guardian article from July that offhandedly mentions "an estimated budget of £230m," failing to note that this would make it the most expensive "British" movie of all time (surpassing even the recent Bond films) and would land it among the five most expensive movies from any country. A slip of the keyboard seems like a possible explanation here, although I have no idea what the actual figure would be. But I doubt that Universal is spending more on this than Disney spends on their Star Wars movies.
- movielocke
- Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:44 am
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
The whole trailer would play to “everybody wants to be a cat!” From Disney’s Aristocats. That’s the missing song right?domino harvey wrote:They must be desperate if they're now trying to sneak this film past musical haters by not featuring a single song in the trailer. It still looks terrible, like a video game demo from 2011
- brundlefly
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:55 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
First read this as "aristocrats," which has potential as the final word of dialogue.movielocke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:00 pmThe whole trailer would play to “everybody wants to be a cat!” From Disney’s Aristocats. That’s the missing song right?domino harvey wrote:They must be desperate if they're now trying to sneak this film past musical haters by not featuring a single song in the trailer. It still looks terrible, like a video game demo from 2011
- jsteffe
- Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:00 am
- Location: Atlanta, GA
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
Here is a more optimistic view of the film's box office prospects. You can accept argument that or not. It the film really does cost £230m it will be a challenge to break even, given that Les Miserables grossed $440 worldwide. That creepy CGI will keep me from seeing it, but one ticket doesn't matter much. And I'm not the film's target audience.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
First screening last night, though reviews are embargoed til Weds. Trickled out reaction is what you’d expect: awful mixed with stunned disbelief. Early reports indicate the film also has humanoid mice and cockroaches
- DarkImbecile
- Ask me about my visible cat breasts
- Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:24 pm
- Location: Albuquerque, NM
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
Supposedly Tom Hooper said at the premiere that he was still editing as of yesterday morning, which is always a good sign
- Michael Kerpan
- Spelling Bee Champeen
- Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:20 pm
- Location: New England
- Contact:
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
My kids (when young) saw a bit of Cats on TV (not yet having been exposed to any ALW at all -- but plenty of Sondheim and Bernstein and Gershwin) and instantly demanded that the channel be changed (which I had intended to do in any event).
- Brian C
- I hate to be That Pedantic Guy but...
- Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:58 am
- Location: Chicago, IL
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
Pedantic perhaps, but what I'd expect would be the other way around, stunned disbelief mixed with awful. My reaction to the trailer isn't "my god, this looks awful," but rather more like "wait, hold on, this is still not a real actual thing, right?"domino harvey wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:36 pmTrickled out reaction is what you’d expect: awful mixed with stunned disbelief.
Still, at least it doesn't have Eddie Redmayne in it.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
He’s reteamed this season with Felicity Jones in that balloon movie that’s about to stream for free on Amazon and is allegedly pretty entertaining
-
- Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:49 am
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
Hooper’s answer to “Are you happy with how it looks?” is classic comedy:DarkImbecile wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:43 pmSupposedly Tom Hooper said at the premiere that he was still editing as of yesterday morning, which is always a good sign
https://mobile.twitter.com/Variety/stat ... 3563318272
- Luke M
- Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:21 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
The reviews are out and are some of the funniest writings you'll read this week.
- therewillbeblus
- Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:40 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
The titles of most of the articles alone are hilarious, and (apparently) more creative than anything in the film. I love a good trainwreck
- Big Ben
- Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:54 pm
- Location: Great Falls, Montana
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
This snippet from Michael Phillips zero star review from the Chicago Tribune sure is something:
Michael Phillips wrote:Is it the worst film of 2019, or simply the most recent misfire of 2019? Reader, I swear on a stack of pancakes: “Cats” cannot be beat for sheer folly and misjudgment and audience-reaction-to-“Springtime for Hitler”-in-“The Producers” stupefaction.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
There are way too many funny review lines, we'll be parsing these out for days, but here's a good one from the NYT
It's amazing to see what Adult Swim can accomplish with a $100 million budget.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
- movielocke
- Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:44 am
Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
La times
Curiously enough, for all this talk of digital fur technology, there appears to be no fur on the cats’ actual digits, their unnervingly human fingers and toes. And just to round out this nightmarish anatomy lesson, Hooper often directs his actors to splay their legs and bare their flat, undifferentiated crotches for the camera, none more frequently than Dench’s Old Neuteronomy herself.
- mfunk9786
- Under Chris' Protection
- Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 4:43 pm
- Location: Philadelphia, PA
- Big Ben
- Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:54 pm
- Location: Great Falls, Montana
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
I had always had a hunch that it would be bad but I am just aghast at all of this. Why not delay the movie until it's finished? Surely it could have avoided all this heat if they waited I don't know, six months? Mind boggling that so much money was thrown at this project that now sounds like even it's director has grown apathetic towards it. Remarkable.
- The Curious Sofa
- Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:18 am
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
It would be a matter of throwing good money after bad, because it’s conceptually misguided. Even with perfect CGI, these humanoid cat monsters will never look less than grotesque.
Last edited by The Curious Sofa on Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
- Never Cursed
- Such is life on board the Redoutable
- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:22 am
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
I don't know if there was ever going to be a satisfactory "finished" state for this film, given how negatively its central conceit was received. It honestly makes a lot of sense to me that Hooper or the studio mandated a bunch of last-minute VFX changes and re-edits.
The thing that saddens me about this movie is that, considering how visible a failure Cats has become, I don't think we'll get another big-budget non-animated musical for a while after 2020 - here's hoping In The Heights or the West Side Story remake (shudder) are good/successful enough to change this trend...
The thing that saddens me about this movie is that, considering how visible a failure Cats has become, I don't think we'll get another big-budget non-animated musical for a while after 2020 - here's hoping In The Heights or the West Side Story remake (shudder) are good/successful enough to change this trend...
-
- Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:49 am
Re: Cats (Tom Hooper, 2019)
You guys are awfully optimistic that this still won’t kill at the BO.