Game of Thrones & House of the Dragon
- domino harvey
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I believe Cersei had her last chance for at least some redemption in this episode and we saw how that went. I don't think you're going to get your wish, though I think it would be markedly out of character for Cersei to do anything commendable towards most of the remaining players
- movielocke
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Cersei is going to be in for a surprise when the golden company is inevitably led by daario naharis
- domino harvey
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Ha! The series has already shown itself working overtime to start tying up loose ends and giving last calls (did anyone expect to see Hot Pie again?), so I wouldn't be surprised if he turns up. But to be honest, I completely forgot about him! Isn't he still in Meereen?
- movielocke
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Another thing to consider is the deliberate invocation of slavery by cersei when negotiating with the iron bank. Braavos is founded on a fanatic anti slavery ethos, and she may have guaranteed they will not be on her side when she implies they profit off the slave trade.
- barryconvex
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Except she can't die as she's the lord of light. I thought of a few good reasons why this must be true then promptly forgot all of them. But i'm sticking to my theory anyway...I suspect you're right in your guess about fan favorites, and would say it's almost a dead cert that Daenerys dies....
- MoonlitKnight
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Surely Martin is at least still dictating the general direction of the storyline(s), given he's still working on the last 2 books in the series (why would he write something completely contrary to what's been done on the show)?jindianajonz wrote:But I fully agree with you- now that D&D have moved well beyond the books, they are unfortunately happy with letting the show coast on its own inertia towards a conclusion.
- domino harvey
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He provided the showrunners with his outline for the rest of the series, but the TV show was already its own thing in comparison to the books-- see Bronn's prominence in the show, for one. And a certain alleged Targaryen prominent in the books is nowhere to be found (not to mention an undead Stark...)
- aox
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AU contraire!domino harvey wrote:(not to mention an undead Stark...)
- jbeall
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See also this theory regarding the Iron Bank.movielocke wrote:Another thing to consider is the deliberate invocation of slavery by cersei when negotiating with the iron bank. Braavos is founded on a fanatic anti slavery ethos, and she may have guaranteed they will not be on her side when she implies they profit off the slave trade.
- domino harvey
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Oh, I really like that theory! Cersei is the precursor to someone who doesn't carry a balance on their MasterCard, only instead of slightly lower credit score, utter ruin
EDIT: The more I think about this, the better it is. I sure hope it pans out this way, as it's super clever and a great punchline to their house's motto
EDIT: The more I think about this, the better it is. I sure hope it pans out this way, as it's super clever and a great punchline to their house's motto
- aox
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The problem with that Iron Bank theory is that she immediately took out a new loan to pay for the Golden Company (Season 8). So, the IB still has a vested interest in seeing Cersei/Lannisters succeed. Shame, I like that theory as well.
- domino harvey
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Did she? I know she and what's his name from the Iron Bank exchanged pleasantries and promises to do business again, but couldn't Cersei just be assuming they'd back her play for the Golden Company based on misreading their interactions?
- aox
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domino harvey wrote:Did she? I know she and what's his name from the Iron Bank exchanged pleasantries and promises to do business again, but couldn't Cersei just be assuming they'd back her play for the Golden Company based on misreading their interactions?
from the GOT Wiki (Yes, I know)
She does pay them with the gold acquisition from Highgarden. I think it is reasonable to assume the IB extended a new loan to Cersei to pay for the Golden Company in Season 8.Now that the Lannisters' old debts will be mostly paid off, and the Iron Bank's faith in them somewhat reassured by their recent military victories, Cersei wants to take out new loans to strengthen her position in the war, so she can finish securing control over the rest of the continent. They discuss that Cersei wants to use the money to hire foreign Sellsword companies to bolster the depleted Lannister military ranks. Specifically, she reveals that she has had Qyburn make overtures to hire the best and largest private mercenary army in all of the Free Cities: the Golden Company. Tycho assures her that the Iron Bank will be delighted to help her with these future endeavors, once it receives the gold she is bringing them.
- domino harvey
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Maybe. If you follow the Reddit thread used as the source for the article above, a member breaks down Tycho's comments to show they're carefully worded to be non-committal to Cersei and in favor of supporting the winning side
- domino harvey
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- Luke M
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I was trying to find something comparable and apparently the Battle of Helm’s Deep in LOTR The Two Towers took 120 days to film.
- movielocke
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Not surprising, anything with fire takes a long time to shoot, because every practical effect involves a major reset for each new take and angle. Add in the complications of night shooting and oy.domino harvey wrote:A battle scene for the last season took 55 days to shoot
- Lost Highway
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I'm not sure anything will ever top the Night Watch & Wildlings vs the White Walkers battle from season 5 for me.
- DarkImbecile
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Coster-Waldau says in Variety: “We spent twice as much shooting these six episodes than we did on two full seasons before.”
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- Murdoch
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That's enough to get me excited, and I lost interest in the main series around two seasons ago.
- Big Ben
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The prequel series will consist entirely of Naomi Watts reading descriptions of food that GRRM has written. But seriously those are the sections I remember the most about the books.
In all honesty though there are hundred upon hundreds of years of history that took place well before the events of the the main books/show and frankly I'm now wondering if the show will be better or worse off because of it.
In all honesty though there are hundred upon hundreds of years of history that took place well before the events of the the main books/show and frankly I'm now wondering if the show will be better or worse off because of it.
- domino harvey
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I imagine this is the first of several big names that will appear, since everyone in Hollywood is well aware how lucrative it was to be part of the original
- mfunk9786
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It's sort of like buying a stock when it's at its highest point - very strange move on Watts' part and any other high profile member(s) of the cast that join up - if Game of Thrones fatigue hasn't already begun to sink in for people, surely after the finale they'll feel as though they've had enough for a while. I predict this new series lasts a couple of years, tops, since it'll surely cost HBO a fortune
- domino harvey
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Huh? The show's never been more popular, and there's no reason to expect a spinoff to bomb or fizzle out. Sure, it could, but be careful ascribing your own burnout to the public's