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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#376 Post by neilist » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:11 pm

kwippleton wrote:This article about the restored Eight Hours Don't Make a Day mentions that it's the 'the last of his major works to be restored.'

http://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/ ... 201976919/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hopefully they meant 'latest' and not final?
It also depends on what they mean by 'major works' and 'restored'... Whatever the situation, I don't think anyone can say this is the last time anyone's going to work on his catalogue, so I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#377 Post by beamish13 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:19 pm

neilist wrote:
kwippleton wrote:This article about the restored Eight Hours Don't Make a Day mentions that it's the 'the last of his major works to be restored.'

http://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/ ... 201976919/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hopefully they meant 'latest' and not final?
It also depends on what they mean by 'major works' and 'restored'... Whatever the situation, I don't think anyone can say this is the last time anyone's going to work on his catalogue, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Oh, definitely. There's still the longer cut of Querelle, for one, plus the English/Deutsch versions of Lili Marleen

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#378 Post by Calvin » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:44 am

They don't mention that they're from new restorations but, in the BFI's ongoing Fassbinder retrospective, the only films listed as being screened from 'Digital 4K' (as opposed to just 'Digital' or 35mm) are In a Year of 13 Moons, Lola, The Third Generation and Germany in Autumn. I think it remember being said that the Arrow boxset released last March collected all of the restorations up until that point, which would mean that they must have all been restored since then?

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#379 Post by pet42 » Sat May 06, 2017 4:59 am

pet42 wrote:Berlin Alexanderplatz will be released in Germany on Blu-ray by StudioCanal February 9th next year: Link
Now next month: amazon.de

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#380 Post by kekid » Sat May 06, 2017 2:13 pm

pet42 wrote:
pet42 wrote:Berlin Alexanderplatz will be released in Germany on Blu-ray by StudioCanal February 9th next year: Link
Now next month: amazon.de
I would like to point out a quirk of the Amazon.de website.
If you choose the option of translating the page in English, it shows the audio language for this set as English. Being almost certain this is incorrect, I changed the option to see the page in the original language (German), and then it showed the audio language correctly as Deutsch.
I have observed this problem with Amazon.it and Amazon.fr as well (for both audio and subtitle languages).
So if you want to order any item based on the translated page, it may be wise to verify the audio/subtitle language by viewing the information in the original site language.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#381 Post by kwippleton » Wed May 31, 2017 12:17 pm

Lola due out in July from Studiocanal, with a boxset coming later this year:

http://www.cineoutsider.com/news/storie ... 70513.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#382 Post by andyli » Wed May 31, 2017 8:05 pm

What could be the content of the set? BRD trilogy is unlikely since Arrow has released Maria Braun already. And is Arrow not going to release another set that collects the newest batch of restored Fassbinder films?

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#383 Post by theflirtydozen » Wed May 31, 2017 8:28 pm

andyli wrote:What could be the content of the set? BRD trilogy is unlikely since Arrow has released Maria Braun already. And is Arrow not going to release another set that collects the newest batch of restored Fassbinder films?
The older AE DVD sets contain (Vol I) Lola, Martha, Why Does Herr R. Run Amok? and (Vol II) Veronika Voss, In a Year of Thirteen Moons, The Third Generation, and Germany in Autumn so I'd imagine it's some combination therein.

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Fassbinder in Shanghai

#384 Post by Lemmy Caution » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:36 pm

The Shanghai Film Festival has a mini-spotlight on Fassbinder and Melville, showing 5 films from both directors.
For Fassbinder:
Love is Colder than Death
Fear Eats the Soul
Fontane Effi Briest
Chinese Roulette
World on a Wire
Veronika Voss

I've never seen Chinese Roulette as I picked up a copy without English subs. Hope the time/location is reasonable so I can get to it.
I'm a big fan of Veronica Voss, and would love to see it on a big screen.
Maybe I can drag my 22 year old niece with me (hey, I dragged her to China), as I'm sure she's never seen a Fassbinder film before.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#385 Post by nolanoe » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:25 pm

Chinese Roulette is great, but let's get back to the meaty bits:

So does anybody know if Lorenz has plans set for the long version of Querelle to ever surface? She talked about it a few times, but people have set her statements into strong doubt. Then again...

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#386 Post by TMDaines » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:16 pm

Interestingly, the older Arrow Fassbinder DVD sets have become unavailable, so we'll see what happens with many of these films.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#387 Post by Calvin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:32 am

Second Sight will be releasing Berlin Alexanderplatz on Blu-Ray in the UK by the end of the year.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#388 Post by adam_hu » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:59 pm

Lots of new releases coming out in Germany and the UK this Fall:

September 21, 2017
Fontane Effi Briest German Blu Ray, DVD http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/fonta ... st-blu-ray http://www.studiocanal.de/dvd/fontane_e ... remastered
German audio only, no bonus content listed

Deutschland im Herbst German Blu Ray, DVD http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/deuts ... st-blu-ray http://www.studiocanal.de/dvd/deutschla ... remastered
German audio and subtitle, bonus content
First time on Blu Ray

Die Ehe der Maria Braun German Blu Ray http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/die_e ... un-blu-ray
German audio, no bonus content listed

Lola German Blu Ray http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/lola-blu-ray
UK Blu Ray already out with bonus 2017 interviews

September 25, 2017
Eight Hours Don't Make A Day Limited Edition UK Blu-ray
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072NZDZXX/
So far only German edition was available with no English subtitles, this one will have it and more.

November 16, 2017
Best of Rainer Werner Fassbinder 10 DVDs https://www.amazon.de/Best-Rainer-Werne ... 0743B4XJG/

Martha German Blu Ray https://www.amazon.de/Martha-Blu-ray-Sp ... 074376J2R/
4K remastering, first time ever on Blu Ray anywhere

November 27, 2017
Berlin Alexanderplatz UK Blu Ray

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Berlin-Alexand ... B074R3ZMZF
German Blu Ray already out

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#389 Post by Lost Highway » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:17 am

Last night I watched the Blu-ray of Martha which got released in Germany a couple of weeks ago. It looks rought, there are improvements in color and contrast over the DVD, but not in terms of detail and resolution. The booklet states that they did a 2k scan of the 16mm reversal filmstock Martha was shot on, so this may well be down to the filmstock used, I’m not knowledgeable enough about reversal stock. To me the end result looks more like it was taken from a video source. I recently watched Eight Hours are not a Day, also shot on 16mm for TV but it looks far superior. This is by far the most disappointing of the Fassbinder restorations I’ve seen, which is a shame because Martha is one of my favourites.

It doesn’t look too bad here, but when watched on a large display it doesn’t hold up:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11163 ... =0&l=0&a=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#390 Post by nolanoe » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:08 am

Lost Highway wrote: It doesn’t look too bad here, but when watched on a large display it doesn’t hold up:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11163 ... =0&l=0&a=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As somebody who has seen this on 35mm... I can attest to the screen grabs looking a LOT better than what is "out there". The print I saw looked very much like the DVD - discolored and worn out. So this is very pleasing to my eyes - I do agree, though, that they probably went with a low bitrate for the Blu (god knows why, but Arthouse is 'amazing' at messing these up). Fingers crossed Criterion will make a call and snatch the restoration.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#391 Post by justeleblanc » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:59 am

Can someone point me to a list of all the 4K/2K restorations completed/scheduled by the foundation. I'm mostly curious about the status of three films that, from my understanding, were restored in some capacity for DVD many years ago, but that may or may not be included in the foundation's more recent efforts: HERR R, FEAR OF FEAR, and MOTHER KUSTER. I'm also curious if WILD GAME (JAIL BAIT) has any hope of being restored, or if earlier discussions revealed that a restoration of this film definitely will not happen, perhaps due to legal disputes between Fassbinder and the film's writer.

In any event, I've had little success trying to navigate the foundation's website for a full list of restorations, so any help would be appreciated. And my apologies if the answer is easily findable.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#392 Post by nolanoe » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:08 pm

Wildwechsel seems stuck in hell - I didn't come across any news. Which is odd, as it never was banned per se... it seems more like a "silent agreement" type situation. If anybody knows anything, news would be much appreciated.

Aside of that - has the "long cut" of Querelle ever been mentioned aside of Lorenz' remarks a few years ago? I recall somebody chiming in that the producers "had no prior knowledge of the existence of such a cut".

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#393 Post by SpiderBaby » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:24 am

After announcing the BA upgrade, I'm curious to see what Criterion has planned for their next Fassbinder. Of the Wellspring titles they grabbed the rights to years ago, it seems they have focused on the 'Fassbinder 101' canon of Fox and his Friends, Merchant, Petra von Kant and threw the early works into an Eclipse.

So I'm curious if they will put a Fear of Fear or Satan's Brew out on blu-ray, or Mother Kuster (which is a top Fassbinder imo). Keep going with the popular titles and upgrade the BRD trilogy?

Or will they hopefully show up with their edition of Querelle finally? While we are at it, didn't Olive announced the longer cut of The Stationmaster's Wife back in 2010 when Despair and I Only Want You to Love Me was released? What ever happened to that?

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#394 Post by nolanoe » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:33 pm

SpiderBaby wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:24 am
Or will they hopefully show up with their edition of Querelle finally? While we are at it, didn't Olive announced the longer cut of The Stationmaster's Wife back in 2010 when Despair and I Only Want You to Love Me was released? What ever happened to that?
Stationmaster's Wife/Bollwieser INDEED was announced. I have no clue what happened.

Again - Querelle is a fascinating beast. There's no journalist who seems intent on grilling Lorenz a bit more on if that cut could potentially ever see a release, if she's working on it or if she can even produce the proof she claims she has...

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#395 Post by ianungstad » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:10 pm

For some reason Amazon has added new streaming options for Fox and His Friends, Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant and Katzelmacher to their video service in the last week and the rights are credited to Arrow Films:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_date ... -desc-rank

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#396 Post by SpiderBaby » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:02 am

Looks like The Third Generation is getting a blu-ray in Germany from a 4K restoration. Hope we get an English friendly release soon.

https://www.amazon.de/dritte-Generation ... 07KLJNBPG/

Edit:

And one for In a Year with 13 Moons.

https://www.amazon.de/einem-Jahr-mit-Mo ... 07KLCRY6R/

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#397 Post by SpiderBaby » Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:04 am

Querelle is playing on TCM right now with the Criterion logo along with the Janus logo in front. Seems to be the next C release.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#398 Post by headacheboy » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:25 pm

SpiderBaby wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:04 am
Querelle is playing on TCM right now with the Criterion logo along with the Janus logo in front. Seems to be the next C release.
There were half a dozen Fassbinders that played on Filmstruck with the Criterion logo that they've yet to release. Of course, I can recall none of them beyond Querelle.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#399 Post by Minkin » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:48 pm

headacheboy wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:25 pm
SpiderBaby wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:04 am
Querelle is playing on TCM right now with the Criterion logo along with the Janus logo in front. Seems to be the next C release.
There were half a dozen Fassbinders that played on Filmstruck with the Criterion logo that they've yet to release. Of course, I can recall none of them beyond Querelle.
The following unannounced Fassbinder films were on Filmstruck:

Effi Briest
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven
Chinese Roulette
Satan’s Brew
Querelle

So, it could be any of those. Though I have noticed an interesting pattern where a film plays on TCM and then gets announced by Criterion a month or two later. Like I'm fairly sure A Brighter Summer Day played on TCM quite a bit before being announced, and then hasn't really played again since. There must be some oddball programming deal between Criterion and TCM to build up hype. If we could access older TCM schedules, we could probably prove this theory.

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Re: Rainer Werner Fassbinder

#400 Post by headacheboy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:19 pm

Minkin wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:48 pm
The following unannounced Fassbinder films were on Filmstruck:

Effi Briest
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven
Chinese Roulette
Satan’s Brew
Querelle
Yes! Thank you Minkin.

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