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Mr Sausage
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Re: Wes Anderson

#101 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:00 pm

LQ wrote:I respect mfunk's criticisms of it being a little too stuffed with actors, some of the supporting characters do come off as underdeveloped, but I'm completely absorbed in the kids so that didn't bother me.
Criticizing the movie for over-abundance is something I'd only come up with if pressed. Sure, it's true, but it's hard to be bothered that the movie gives us too much considering that most movies don't give us enough.

I found the criticisms somewhere above that the movie was too insular, or too unconnected with "other universes" (whatever they are), puzzling. Is there anything absent from this movie that you wouldn't find similarly absent from any movie that takes place entirely in and around a small community? The only difference is that Anderson imbues that town with his sensibility. He also never cheaps out by making the emotional beats simplistic. The 'first kiss' is admirably unsentimental; it precisely captures two kids' attempt to act grown up.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#102 Post by swo17 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:07 pm

I'm totally list projecting this. Counting all the lists posted so far where seven films were ranked (with 7 points for a 1st place ranking, 6 for 2nd, etc.), here is the overall ranking:

1. Rushmore (155)
2. The Royal Tenenbaums (154)
3. Moonrise Kingdom (153)
4. The Life Aquatic (94)
= Fantastic Mr. Fox (94)
6. Bottle Rocket (68)
7. The Darjeeling Limited (66)

If more people post rankings, I'll update this.
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Re: Wes Anderson

#103 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:26 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:
LQ wrote:I respect mfunk's criticisms of it being a little too stuffed with actors, some of the supporting characters do come off as underdeveloped, but I'm completely absorbed in the kids so that didn't bother me.
Criticizing the movie for over-abundance is something I'd only come up with if pressed. Sure, it's true, but it's hard to be bothered that the movie gives us too much considering that most movies don't give us enough.
Like I said, I really, really like Moonrise Kingdom, and I was indeed pressed. ;)

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Re: Wes Anderson

#104 Post by gcgiles1dollarbin » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:45 pm

swo17 wrote:I'm totally list projecting this. Counting all the lists posted so far where seven films were ranked (with 7 points for a 1st place ranking, 6 for 2nd, etc.), here is the overall ranking:

1. Rushmore (81)
2. The Royal Tenenbaums (76)
3. Moonrise Kingdom (73)
4. Fantastic Mr. Fox (53)
5. The Life Aquatic (45)
6. Bottle Rocket (33)
7. The Darjeeling Limited (31)

If more people post rankings, I'll update this.
Well shit if you're going to make it count.

1. Moonrise Kingdom
2. The Royal Tenenbaums
3. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
4. Bottle Rocket
5. Rushmore
6. Fantastic Mr. Fox
7. The Darjeeling Limited

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Re: Wes Anderson

#105 Post by Professor Wagstaff » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:48 pm

Count me in

1) Rushmore
2) Moonrise Kingdom
3) The Royal Tenenbaums
4) The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
5) Bottle Rocket
6) The Darjeeling Limited
7) The Fantastic Mr. Fox

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Re: Wes Anderson

#106 Post by cdnchris » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:57 pm

Damn, Mr. Fox needs some help!

1.) The Royal Tenenbaums
2.) Fantastic Mr. Fox
3.) Moonrise Kingdom
4.) The Darjeeling Limited
5.) Rushmore
6.) The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
7.) Bottle Rocket

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Re: Wes Anderson

#107 Post by FakeBonanza » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:59 pm

domino harvey wrote:So much joy and warmth coupled with a realization of cinematic possibilities produced one of the grandest portrayals of what childhood feels like...
I can now see how viewing the film from this perspective would heighten the experience significantly. It's likely that I wasn't prepared for the particular film that Moonrise Kingdom is when I entered the theatre, since most of his other films address the subject of childhood indirectly, through reflection, rather than immersing the viewer in what is essentially a Child's World. I'll definitely keep this in mind upon my second viewing.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#108 Post by Forrest Taft » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:17 pm

1) The Royal Tenenbaums
2) Rushmore
(Slight drop)
3) The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
4) Moonrise Kingdom
5) The Darjeeling Limited
6) The Fantastic Mr. Fox
(Another drop)
7) Bottle Rocket (1996)
8) Hotel Chevalier
9) Botle Rocket (1994)

Wasn't sure I was going to pick up the Matt Zoller Seitz book, but the lovely trailer quickly changed my mind, and also prompted me to finally order the Criterion BDs on Tenenbaums and Rushmore. Should be a very enjoyable marathon, re-watching all of these chronologically as I make my way through the book.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#109 Post by Dylan » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:37 pm

1. Rushmore
2. The Royal Tenenbaums
3. The Darjeeling Limited
4. Moonrise Kingdom
5. Bottle Rocket
6. The Life Aquatic
7. The Fantastic Mr. Fox

I like all of these to varying degrees. And while Mr. Fox is my least-favorite, I still admired it. Actually, one of the best things Anderson has done are those Prada ads he co-directed with Roman Coppola that you can find online - they're beautiful & fun and Léa Seydoux is wonderful (be sure to watch them in order!):

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edit: Prada edited all three ads into one video which can be viewed here
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Re: Wes Anderson

#110 Post by jindianajonz » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:46 pm

Just out of curiosity, why did you place Darjeeling Limited so high? It seems to be consistantly ranking at or near the bottom of all the lists so far.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#111 Post by domino harvey » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:53 pm

I placed Darjeeling not much lower than he did (#4) and you can read my quasi-defense of the film here

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Re: Wes Anderson

#112 Post by Professor Wagstaff » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:02 pm

I ranked "Mr. Fox" last mostly because I don't have an emotional connection to it in the way I instantly do with other Anderson films. My favorite memory of seeing it in theatres was a little boy, maybe 8 years old, seated in front of me who kept whispering to his dad about all of the visual jokes he noticed. He had some great observations for a kid his age and his running commentary only heightened the experience.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#113 Post by MacktheFinger » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:06 pm

1. The Royal Tenenbaums
2. Bottle Rocket
3. Moonrise Kingdom
4. Fantastic Mr. Fox
5. Rushmore
6. The Darjeeling Limited
7. The Life Aquatic

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Re: Wes Anderson

#114 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:51 pm

FerdinandGriffon wrote:
Michael Kerpan wrote:Moonruise Kingdom. Hamster cage. ????
I was desperately trying to avoid the dollhouse comparison, which I find inexact and ungenerous. Hamster cage may be inexact too, but it does convey some of the problems I had with Moonrise Kingdom. The island in the film is a totally closed off world, with a set number of tracks and avenues the characters have access to.
I find this fascinating from someone who liked In Another Country so much, a film that keeps looping back on the same track over and over.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#115 Post by starmanof51 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:52 pm

1. Moonrise Kingdom
2. Rushmore
3. Life Aquatic
4. Fantastic Mr. Fox
5. Bottle Rocket
6. Royal Tenenbaums
7. Darjeeling Limited

Darjeeling's the only one that doesn't really work for me.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#116 Post by Roger Ryan » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:36 pm

1. Moonrise Kingdom
2. Life Aquatic
3. Rushmore
4. Royal Tenenbaums
5. Bottle Rocket
6. Fantastic Mr. Fox
7. Darjeeling Limited

I tend to rate the Wes Anderson film I saw most recently as the best, but that's only because I think they're all almost equally well-made and enjoyable. However, "Hotel Chevalier" would not be included in the pantheon since I wasn't very impressed by it as a stand-alone short.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#117 Post by zedz » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:31 pm

OK then:

Moonrise Kingdom
The Royal Tenenbaums
The Darjeeling Limited
The Life Aquatic
Rushmore
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Bottle Rocket

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Re: Wes Anderson

#118 Post by knives » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:26 pm

Might as regrettably well (have Moonrise on DVR).

The Darjeeling Limited
The Royal Tennebaums
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Rushmore
The Life Aquatic
Bottle Rocket


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Re: Wes Anderson

#120 Post by bdsweeney » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:39 am

Well, bugger me, I may as well join in:

1) Rushmore
2) Moonrise Kingdom
3) The Royal Tenenbaums
4) Bottle Rocket
5) The Life Aquatic
6) Fantastic Mr Fox
7) The Darjeeling Limited

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Re: Wes Anderson

#121 Post by swo17 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:02 am

And with that, we have a 3-way tie for 1st!

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Re: Wes Anderson

#122 Post by Joe Buck » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:18 am

1. Rushmore
2. Moonrise Kingdom
3. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
4. The Royal Tenenbaums
5. Fantastic Mr Fox
6. Bottle Rocket
7. The Darjeeling Limited

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Re: Wes Anderson

#123 Post by Matt » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:21 am

Fine.

1. The Royal Tenenbaums
2. Fantastic Mr Fox
3. Rushmore
4. Moonrise Kingdom
5. The Darjeeling Limited
6. Bottle Rocket
7. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

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Re: Wes Anderson

#124 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:08 pm

What the hell.

1. Rushmore
2. Moonrise Kingdom
3. The Royal Tenenbaums
4. Bottle Rocket
5. The Fantastic Mr. Fox

Don't care for the other two.

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Re: Wes Anderson

#125 Post by JAP » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:41 pm

Let me unlurk to join "The Wes Anderson inpromptu list-project":

1. The Royal Tenenbaums
2. Moonrise Kingdom
3. Rushmore
4. The Darjeeling Limited
4. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
6. Fantastic Mr. Fox
7. Bottle Rocket

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