2000s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol. 2)

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#951 Post by franco » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:55 am

How did L'Intrus crack the top 20? That is a miracle of a decade of list-making.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#952 Post by Clevinger » Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:25 am

moviscop wrote:Eternal Sunshine beating Synecdoche just doesn't sit right :\
Eternal Sunshine beating any film in the top 100, other than maybe Children of Men, is a mystery to me.

And no Tom Tykwer, not even in the Also rans?

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#953 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:46 am

moviscop wrote:Very nicely compiled. I'm surprised that Wong took the top spot from Lynch after all.
I wonder how many people actually voted In the Mood as their number 1.
Perhaps if zedz isn't floating face down in the deep end with a purple patch ebbing from his nether regions he could let us know.
Maybe the Lynch vote was split and undercut by the haters whilst ITM was a firm top ten favourite that coasted in on a general top tennish consensus?
Even though it figured in my top half (L'Intrus was my No 1) I just don't see it as film of the Decade.
Democracy. Who needs it?

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#954 Post by Michael » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:08 am

The White Ribbon would probably be ranked higher if more people saw it. It's still making its theatrical run. Great thing that I caught the film on the day of the deadline and turned in my list just in time with The White Ribbon ranked in my top 5.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#955 Post by jbaart » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:54 am

zedz wrote:THE 2000s LIST:

98= INNOCENCE (201)
which one?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375233/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251141/

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#956 Post by Michael » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:21 am

jbaart wrote:
zedz wrote:THE 2000s LIST:

98= INNOCENCE (201)
which one?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375233/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251141/

The first one of course. :)

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#957 Post by jbaart » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:21 am

Thanks :)

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#958 Post by cysiam » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:07 pm

Am I the only one who didn't vote for ITMFL at all?

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#959 Post by LQ » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:09 pm

I didn't either, which may or may not have to do with the fact that I haven't seen it yet.

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#960 Post by reno dakota » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:12 pm

Nor did I. It's a film that I like (mostly for its look), but I'm afraid its deeper charms are lost on me.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#961 Post by Andre Jurieu » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:19 pm

John Cope wrote:28. Auto Focus (Schrader)
43. George Washington (Green)
46. The Believer (Bean)
Nice to see someone else voted for these. I thought Auto Focus would be forgotten about, so I'm glad someone other than myself squeezed it in. I just couldn't find a spot in my Top 50 for the other two.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#962 Post by Michael » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:21 pm

LQ wrote:I didn't either, which may or may not have to do with the fact that I haven't seen it yet.
:evil: Do yourself a favor. Valentine's Day is a few skips away. Watch ITML and Bright Star - the most romantic films made in the past decade or two or maybe ever.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#963 Post by Andre Jurieu » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:28 pm

Michael wrote:
LQ wrote:I didn't either, which may or may not have to do with the fact that I haven't seen it yet.
:evil: Do yourself a favor. Valentine's Day is a few skips away. Watch ITML and Bright Star - the most romantic films made in the past decade or two or maybe ever.
Uh ... I would actually recommend not doing that. That's kind of setting yourself up for disappointment if ITMFL turns out not to be the greatest romantic film you have ever watched. I would just recommend getting to it when you actually feel like it, rather than when you feel you have to watch it. It's not a case of "don't believe the hype", so much as a case of "figure out how to ignore the hype".

Also, looking at the list now, I'm a bit surprised that Brand Upon the Brain! beat My Winnipeg. (Snark in 3, 2, 1 ...)

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#964 Post by Michael Kerpan » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:32 pm

cysiam wrote:Am I the only one who didn't vote for ITMFL at all?
I don't think it made my final list either. Then again, while I find WKW's work interesting, it has never inspired that much "love" -- I prefer the work of Ann Hui and Johnnie To (at his best).

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#965 Post by LQ » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:32 pm

Do yourself a favor. Valentine's Day is a few skips away. Watch ITML and Bright Star - the most romantic films made in the past decade or two or maybe ever.
I had a feeling that revelation wouldn't rest well with you, Michael! Both are at the top of the queue :)
Although, I've yet to see any movie more romantic than my number 1, Punch-Drunk Love.

Andre, why do you consider My Winnipeg a better film than Brand Upon the Brain? The latter made it pretty high on my list; the former, far from it.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#966 Post by Michael » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:21 pm

Andre Jurieu wrote:
Uh ... I would actually recommend not doing that. That's kind of setting yourself up for disappointment if ITMFL turns out not to be the greatest romantic film you have ever watched. I would just recommend getting to it when you actually feel like it, rather than when you feel you have to watch it. It's not a case of "don't believe the hype", so much as a case of "figure out how to ignore the hype".
I don't understand what you're talking about hype and all. Are you saying that ITMFL is over-hyped? It remains #1 of 2000s with this forum as the previous cycle proves. I did not vote it as #1 but its top position is greatly deserved. I still think those who haven't seen the film needs a push to see it at least once. Same thing with Bright Star which seems to be slipping past too many radars during this ongoing award season.

I was just encouraging LQ to check out ITMFL (and Bright Star) as much as most of you here have been encouraging me to check out undiscovered gems since I joined this forum. Sometimes we all need a push.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#967 Post by scotty2 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:33 pm

Maybe we need a thread called "Why won't they choose the films I like for the Lists Project?" (My unwarranted snarkiness surely has nothing to do with the fact that In the Mood for Love was my top choice.)

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#968 Post by Murdoch » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:19 pm

ITMFL didn't make mine either. As much as I love Wong's 90s films, his 2000 output seems to me a desperate attempt to reclaim his once vibrant loveliness.

Half my list made the final, although next time I'll do some serious revisions since reviewing my list I think my rankings aren't completely reflective of my taste.

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#969 Post by zedz » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:36 pm

Some voting notes for the top three:

In the Mood for Love featured on 32 lists, 20 of those in the top ten, topping six lists and coming in second on four.

Mulholland Dr. was no underdog, so talk of 'haters' is pretty ridiculous. It featured on 36 lists and 18 top tens. Three number ones and six number twos.

Yi Yi featured on 30 lists. Thirteen top ten mentions, six at number one, one at number two. This was my number one (being as it's the best film of the decade and all). The other two didn't make my list, but I like them well enough.

As for L'Intrus making the top twenty: it was in the top five for a while, but its support dried up considerably in the second half of the vote (which was in general much more anglo-centric, as tends to be the case).

EDIT: Oh, and re. Auto Focus - I was surprised by its level of support too. It scored higher than any Scorsese film from the decade!

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#970 Post by zedz » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:01 pm

DIRECTORS OF THE DECADE:

The following directors accumulated more than 1000 votes:

David Lynch (2 films) 1928
Michael Haneke (6 films - yep, somebody voted for Funny Games!) 1773
Wong Kar-Wai (3 films - nope, nobody voted for My Blueberry Nights) 1686
P.T. Anderson (2 films) 1595
Wes Anderson (4 films) 1399
Tsai Ming-liang (5 films) 1388
Claire Denis (5 films) 1331
Jia Zhangke (4 films) 1178
Lars Von Trier (5 films) 1094
Gus Van Sant (5 films) 1077
Edward Tang (1 film) 1049
The Coen Brothers (4 films - you know which four) 1033

And two mea culpas: Bubble should have been on the Exiled list and 2 Days in Paris on the Angry Inches.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#971 Post by swo17 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:07 pm

zedz does like him some Tang.

Out of curiosity, how many votes did Maddin get? And how many of those came from domino?

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#972 Post by Lemmy Caution » Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:39 pm

I had 4 Maddins by #26.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#973 Post by lubitsch » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:04 pm

zedz wrote:DIRECTORS OF THE DECADE:
The following directors accumulated more than 1000 votes:
David Lynch (2 films) 1928
Michael Haneke (6 films - yep, somebody voted for Funny Games!) 1773
Wong Kar-Wai (3 films - nope, nobody voted for My Blueberry Nights) 1686
P.T. Anderson (2 films) 1595
Wes Anderson (4 films) 1399
Tsai Ming-liang (5 films) 1388
Claire Denis (5 films) 1331
Jia Zhangke (4 films) 1178
Lars Von Trier (5 films) 1094
Gus Van Sant (5 films) 1077
Edward Tang (1 film) 1049
The Coen Brothers (4 films - you know which four) 1033
Hm, I didn't participate, so I should probably just shut up, but this strikes me mostly as a selection of strained seriousness mixed with a heavy dose of artistic pretense. Where are e.g. Almodovar, Eastwood, Ang Lee, Scorsese? And since when is Claire Denis considered to be a major film maker?

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#974 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:47 pm

lubitsch wrote: Hm, I didn't participate, so I should probably just shut up,...And since when is Claire Denis considered to be a major film maker?
Re Denis..... Yes maybe you should shut up..otherwise it's handbags at dawn lube.

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Re: 2000s List Discussion and Suggestions

#975 Post by domino harvey » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:04 pm

swo17 wrote:zedz does like him some Tang.

Out of curiosity, how many votes did Maddin get? And how many of those came from domino?
I think you know the answer to that query, at least until zedz installs my idea of being able to subtract points from the total

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