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- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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You're posting on a board which has a large portion of members who regularly champion the work of Michael Mann, so you're not anywhere close to having posted the most embarrassing opinion here. It's not like I resorted to name-calling (yet), just giving some good natured ribbing-- something all of us posting here have been on the receiving end of at least once, I'm sure. If you feel the need to get over-sensitive about your film preferences, perhaps you should not be posting on the internet.
- Antoine Doinel
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I guess your earlier feelings on Brick have changed?a.khan wrote:So, Rian Johnson is apparently...an important director.
Rian Johnson's debut film has strong visual vitality; it manages quiet moments with the most urgent in scenes. Consider the part in the film when Brendan walks past a black mustang and notice how it sits there in peaceful solitude, empty without its master, and then hear the wind gently whistle; then witness a sudden explosion of violence. It reminded me of Gus Van Sant's austerity and minimalism in "Elephant" which may be writer-director Rian Johnson's primary visual influence. (Edit: I'm pasting this entry from my journal, which was written many months ago. Fletch's point about the “Miller's Crossingâ€
- Harold Gervais
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That is the thing domino, I'm not the over-sensitive type. I'm commenting on what I've seen over the years. This board can be quick to take the shot, especially on people with post counts on the low side and then pile on. And lord help anyone who says anything about it. I've seen it too many times. Oh and a threat to name-call. Nice. Of course the funny thing is I wasn't really expressing a preference, I was just saying Brick was a pretty good debut and based on that first film, the guy has a lot of potential.domino harvey wrote:You're posting on a board which has a large portion of members who regularly champion the work of Michael Mann, so you're not anywhere close to having posted the most embarrassing opinion here. It's not like I resorted to name-calling (yet), just giving some good natured ribbing-- something all of us posting here have been on the receiving end of at least once, I'm sure. If you feel the need to get over-sensitive about your film preferences, perhaps you should not be posting on the internet.
Like I said, this can be a great place. Lots of different people with lots of passionate views and a truly amazing breadth of knowledge. It is everything the internet should be and a great resource. The childish shots at the drop of a hat are sadly very often what the internet is.
- Harold Gervais
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And back on-topic, it would be nice if a major chain is going to have a sale on Criterion DVDs that they communicate with their individual stores that there is indeed going to be a sale. My local B&N had no clue about the 30% off event featured in the Criterion newsletter and when she called the other local store, they were equally in the dark. It took me jumping on her computer and pulling up the Barnes & Noble site to get her to take me seriously. That look I got off of the manager thinking I was crazy turning into embarrassed shock was priceless.
- Jeff
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I assumed that Criterion was in error when they said that the sale applied to in-store purchases too. This page on the BN site says "On-Line Exclusive," and while I've seen several Criterion titles marked 15% off in stores, I haven't seen any marked 30%. Glad you were able to get the deal though, Harold.
- The Elegant Dandy Fop
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You conned them. That's bee-yoo-ti-ful!Harold Gervais wrote:My local B&N had no clue about the 30% off event featured in the Criterion newsletter and when she called the other local store, they were equally in the dark. It took me jumping on her computer and pulling up the Barnes & Noble site to get her to take me seriously. That look I got off of the manager thinking I was crazy turning into embarrassed shock was priceless.
- Harold Gervais
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I guess I conned myself as well since I was working off the information in the newsletter.The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:You conned them. That's bee-yoo-ti-ful!Harold Gervais wrote:My local B&N had no clue about the 30% off event featured in the Criterion newsletter and when she called the other local store, they were equally in the dark. It took me jumping on her computer and pulling up the Barnes & Noble site to get her to take me seriously. That look I got off of the manager thinking I was crazy turning into embarrassed shock was priceless.
- a.khan
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No, my feelings haven't changed. To clarify, my last comment questioned, on purely subjective terms, Rian Johnson's *importance* in the circle of great filmmakers. (Oh, and that there is only a mildly positive review of the film. But thank you for digging up my post; I appreciate your interest.)Antoine Doinel wrote:I guess your earlier feelings on Brick have changed?a.khan wrote:So, Rian Johnson is apparently...an important director.
On Johnson, I have absolutely no issues with statements like "this guy has potential," because, frankly, he does. But so does Richard Kelly. Would we want to see him hawking his top ten DVDs? (Don't answer!)
If I am slightly vexed at the thought of Mr. Rian Johnson -- with his one, debut film as alleged proof of genius -- being mentioned in the space shared by Bergman, Antonioni and Buñuel, then write me up, because I'm guilty as charged.
Who am I to argue with Criterion's decision to pick Johnson for a newsletter feature. But I do reserve the right to my opinion, a liberty Domino Harvey had, at the very outset, made clear. I don't believe anyone's right to have a different opinion was ever called into question. So why all this ballyhoo and accusations of elitism?
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No one in this thread has alleged or even insinuated that Rian is a genius, or that he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as some of the greatest filmmakers of all time. But, like it or not, the Criterion Collection is not reserved strictly for the masters.a.khan wrote:If I am slightly vexed at the thought of Mr. Rian Johnson -- with his one, debut film as alleged proof of genius -- being mentioned in the space shared by Bergman, Antonioni and Buñuel, then write me up, because I'm guilty as charged.
- justeleblanc
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Oh come on. This is getting petty -- what has Michael Bay every done to you! O:)jaredsap wrote:No one in this thread has alleged or even insinuated that Rian is a genius, or that he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as some of the greatest filmmakers of all time. But, like it or not, the Criterion Collection is not reserved strictly for the masters.a.khan wrote:If I am slightly vexed at the thought of Mr. Rian Johnson -- with his one, debut film as alleged proof of genius -- being mentioned in the space shared by Bergman, Antonioni and Buñuel, then write me up, because I'm guilty as charged.
- arsonfilms
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In the hopes of maybe ending the griping about Michael Bay and anyone else who started making movies within the last 20 years, I'd like to point out that the list of people who AREN'T Bergman, Antonioni or Bunuel is very long. In fact, in the whole wide world there are only three people who will find themselves on the list of people who are Bergman, Antonioni or Bunuel.
Look, Brick was really good. Better than plenty of films in the collection, in fact. Obviously Rian Johnson isn't one of the masters, but you can hardly fault him for that - the guy's only done one film, and as first films go I daresay he's got a lot of the masters beat.
Look, Brick was really good. Better than plenty of films in the collection, in fact. Obviously Rian Johnson isn't one of the masters, but you can hardly fault him for that - the guy's only done one film, and as first films go I daresay he's got a lot of the masters beat.
- justeleblanc
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- Antoine Doinel
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Mildly positive? You draw comparisons The Godfather, Vertigo and Elephant.a.khan wrote:No, my feelings haven't changed. To clarify, my last comment questioned, on purely subjective terms, Rian Johnson's *importance* in the circle of great filmmakers. (Oh, and that there is only a mildly positive review of the film.Antoine Doinel wrote:I guess your earlier feelings on Brick have changed?a.khan wrote:So, Rian Johnson is apparently...an important director.
If that's mild, I can't imagine what an all out rave would be.
- justeleblanc
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Are Michael Bay jokes still funny? Let me know cause I have a great one-liner that would be HYSTERICAL here.Antoine Doinel wrote:Mildly positive? You draw comparisons The Godfather, Vertigo and Elephant.a.khan wrote:No, my feelings haven't changed. To clarify, my last comment questioned, on purely subjective terms, Rian Johnson's *importance* in the circle of great filmmakers. (Oh, and that there is only a mildly positive review of the film.Antoine Doinel wrote:I guess your earlier feelings on Brick have changed?
If that's mild, I can't imagine what an all out rave would be.
- arsonfilms
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I think my point was that more than just Renoir oughtta be rolling over in their graves that only a handful of people are worthy enough to be watched.tryavna wrote:Renoir must be turning over in his grave....arsonfilms wrote:In fact, in the whole wide world there are only three people who will find themselves on the list of people who are Bergman, Antonioni or Bunuel.
- justeleblanc
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- domino harvey
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