Criterion and StudioCanal

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1176 Post by FrauBlucher » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:44 pm

I would tend to agree except for a few things... First, the SC rep posting an instagram photo of her visit Criterion (saying "The best of #studiocanalcatalogue at the cinephilie temple #criterion and suggesting that more titles are coming), second, the KL Insiders constant reference to other labels and third, Criterion's schedule is so packed that any said titles could be released later rather than sooner.

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Criterion and StudioCanal

#1177 Post by movielocke » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:32 pm

domino harvey wrote:Considering we’ve seen zero OOP StudioCanal titles return to Criterion, I think we should start preparing for the possible eventuality that none are with Criterion. I could easily see the label saying “Well, fuck that” to dealing with them after the original rights mess
If you look at criterion’s schedule and presume that they want to announce spine 1000 in November that means July-October need only four new releases per month (not the five of the last four ish months) and no room for new box sets in this time frame.


That means probably more upgrades in these four months, or the perfect time to have a series of four-eight studio canal titles announced from July to October.


In other words, criterion could have targeted July to October as the ideal time for a studio canal reissue project, in terms of juggling schedule priorities and labor time

So rather than koker trilogy in July, the big titles might be Ran and Third Man Second and third editions, respectively.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1178 Post by Glowingwabbit » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:40 pm

So rather than koker trilogy in July, the big titles might be Ran and Third Man Second and third editions, respectively.
Why you gotta pick on the Koker Trilogy?!

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1179 Post by domino harvey » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:00 pm

There is no reason to believe the 1000th spine is coming in November rather than sooner

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1180 Post by dwk » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:09 pm

They also could just skip #1000 if they wanted to release it in a specific month

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1181 Post by Ribs » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:19 pm

and/or announce its release “early” like the olympics set

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1182 Post by movielocke » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:47 pm

Ribs wrote:and/or announce its release “early” like the olympics set
That’s what I think they’ll do, announce its release before the October titles announcement.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1183 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:33 am

Let's ask Bressonaire. He'll know.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1184 Post by Yaanu » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:29 pm

I'm just gonna throw this out there, but it would be fun if Criterion released Spine #1000 alongside a number of long-OOP titles from StudioCanal. That would be heavenly.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1185 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:02 pm

If anyone feels compelled to continue this line of supposition and conjecture, please do it here

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1186 Post by captveg » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:18 pm

In addition to Kino and Shout Factory (and presumably Criterion), it appears yet another label (or two) has licensed SC titles, per the KL Insider:
It [Angelique series] was still available when we were done, so it's not with us and the two companies who did SC deals simultaneously. Since then, others have done deals with them, so I don't know if any of those other labels have picked them up or not.
So, one way or another it would seem SC titles will be plentiful for the North American market over the next few years. (Kino alone has 130+ titles).
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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1187 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:24 pm

Good, they hold a lot of great French films that still haven’t seen English-friendly releases

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1188 Post by captveg » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:29 pm

Also, worth noting:
We have LA MARSEILLAISE. No other Renoir or any Fellini movies in the SC deal.
This means that Kino did not license these former Criterion SC titles:

Nights of Cabiria
Variety Lights
The White Sheik

(This also confirms again that Kino does not have Grand Illusion, which was likely retained by Lionsgate as their BD release is still in print)

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1189 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:34 pm

The Fellinis may also just not have HD ready masters, the latter two Criterions were rough

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1190 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:36 pm

captveg wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:29 pm
This means that Kino did not license these former Criterion SC titles:

Nights of Cabiria
Variety Lights
The White Sheik
Which could be a positive step towards a future Fellini boxset. Cohen would probably be an easy partner to license City of Women

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1191 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:43 pm

Raro has Clowns, though I gather many wouldn’t miss it

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1192 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:58 pm

Doesn't Arrow have Orchestra Rehearsal?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1193 Post by swo17 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:14 pm

They have both that and Voice of the Moon in the U.S.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1194 Post by FlickeringWindow » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:17 pm

swo17 wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:14 pm
They have both that and Voice of the Moon in the U.S.
And they likely wouldn't mind working with Criterion on including titles since they released The Serpent's Egg around the same time as Ingmar Bergman's Cinema.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1195 Post by dwk » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:10 pm

I know disc sales have been dropping fast, but I wonder how much money StudioCanal lost out on because Lionsgate has, essentially, been sitting on SC's catalog for a decade?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1196 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:58 am

Kino has the rights to 'Touchez pas au grisbi', which means that the "other company" has 'Le Trou'.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1197 Post by captveg » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:51 am

Kanopy listings also reveal that Léon Morin, Priest is with Kino.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1198 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:47 pm

So, the two OOP Melvilles not announced (yet) by Kino are Army of Shadows and Le Cercle Rouge unless I missed something. Did Mr Kino say they had all the SC JPMs? I don’t remember.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1199 Post by dwk » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:30 pm

Kino Insider said they only have four Melvilles:
Léon Morin, Priest
Le Doulos
Un Flic
Bob le flambeur

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1200 Post by KJones77 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:45 pm

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... ount=29555

As upfront of a confirmation that Criterion is back with StudioCanal from KLI.

Per them, Criterion has Masculin Feminin and Made in USA, but not Pierrot le Fou which is with another label (?).

Pierrot le Fou could not be less Shout if it tried, so it surprises me that it is not included as being a future Criterion release, at least in the way KLI phrased it. Could a 4th company have stepped in or maybe just Lionsgate?

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