Lionsgate: Jean-Luc Godard Collection
- Jean-Luc Garbo
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- Der Müde Tod
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Audio problem with Passion
I watched Passion last night, and there seems to be a synching problem at two points: the first at about 14'20'', the second a little after 26''. The moving lips do not correspond to the spoken audio (sometimes, the lips move without sound, sometimes there is conflicting sound). The subtitles are in synch with the sound. I realize that in this film the voices very often come from the off, but I doubt very much this effect is on purpose.
Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?
Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?
- Oedipax
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Re: Audio problem with Passion
It's intentional. It's there on the Cahiers du Cinema DVD as well, and I've read about it in more depth in at least one essay or book. Definitely one of Godard's strangest experiments with sound - Nouvelle vague is much more successful in that regard.Der Müde Tod wrote:I watched Passion last night, and there seems to be a synching problem at two points: the first at about 14'20'', the second a little after 26''. The moving lips do not correspond to the spoken audio (sometimes, the lips move without sound, sometimes there is conflicting sound). The subtitles are in synch with the sound. I realize that in this film the voices very often come from the off, but I doubt very much this effect is on purpose.
Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?
- Cronenfly
- Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:04 pm
Re: Audio problem with Passion
It must be a bitch supervising the A/V on transfers for Godard's movies (especially the later ones)...Oedipax wrote:It's intentional. It's there on the Cahiers du Cinema DVD as well, and I've read about it in more depth in at least one essay or book. Definitely one of Godard's strangest experiments with sound - Nouvelle vague is much more successful in that regard.Der Müde Tod wrote:I watched Passion last night, and there seems to be a synching problem at two points: the first at about 14'20'', the second a little after 26''. The moving lips do not correspond to the spoken audio (sometimes, the lips move without sound, sometimes there is conflicting sound). The subtitles are in synch with the sound. I realize that in this film the voices very often come from the off, but I doubt very much this effect is on purpose.
Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?
- Oedipax
- Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:48 am
- Location: Atlanta
Re: Audio problem with Passion
Indeed. He's certainly not going to supervise things, either. I remember the R1 DVD of Weekend from New Yorker "corrected" a shot where the film rolls vertically in the frame, leaving the bottom of the frame offset into the top of the frame for a few seconds (it's the car crash/Hermès handbag sequence). It was preserved on the R2 from Artificial Eye at least!Cronenfly wrote:It must be a bitch supervising the A/V on transfers for Godard's movies (especially the later ones)...
- Der Müde Tod
- Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:50 am
Re: Audio problem with Passion
Thanks for clarifying this. I must say I have never paid so much attention to an audio track during the first viewing of a film like for this one after I stumbled across this "glitch". It was definitely worth it, because the track is extremely fascinating (regardless of the "glitches").Oedipax wrote:It's intentional. It's there on the Cahiers du Cinema DVD as well, and I've read about it in more depth in at least one essay or book. Definitely one of Godard's strangest experiments with sound - Nouvelle vague is much more successful in that regard.
- jbeall
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Dave Kehr Critic's Choice: New DVDs
It's a nice essay comparing Pierrot Le Fou to Passion and giving some context to Godard's career.
It's a nice essay comparing Pierrot Le Fou to Passion and giving some context to Godard's career.