StudioCanal: Melville: the Essential Collection
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Re: StudioCanal: Melville: the Essential Collection
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Re: StudioCanal: Melville: the Essential Collection
It looks like they're working off the same exact transfer used for the Criterion set, but I'm guessing they did the color timing from scratch. Generally the Criterion disc went for timing that is a touch cooler, and on that last exterior shot, they went for a dark, overcast March look whereas the StudioCanal disc went for a sunnier sky. Also, one of the close-ups looks like it was blown up a touch for the StudioCanal set - perhaps to stabilize image? Regardless, the level of detail is nearly identical, it's mainly the color timing choices that are different - it may just be a matter of taste as to which is better.Pepsi wrote: Army of Shadows:
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Re: StudioCanal: Melville: the Essential Collection
Cinematographer Pierre Lhomme was involved with the StudioCanal disc.
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From Criterion's booklet
the StudioCanal release looks to have that yellow push we all know and love.Supervised by director of photography Pierre Lhomme, this high-definition digital transfer was created on a Spirit Datacine from the original 35mm camera negative, restored by Studio Canal. Thousands of instances of dirt, debris, scratches, splices, warps, jitter, and flicker were manually removed using MTI's DRS system and Pixel Farm's PFClean system, while Digital Vision's DVNR system was used for small dirt, grain, and noise reduction.
Telecine supervisor: Pierre Lhomme.
Telecine colorist: Raymond Terrentin/Eclair, Paris
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Again, I wonder if that's just a bad encode but from the same master Criterion used (a la the yellow in Criterion's Shoah. A bunch of SC releases from that era have really bad encodes/DNR/transfers (The Graduate, Contempt, The Trial, the original The Third Man).dwk wrote:From Criterion's bookletthe StudioCanal release looks to have that yellow push we all know and love.Supervised by director of photography Pierre Lhomme, this high-definition digital transfer was created on a Spirit Datacine from the original 35mm camera negative, restored by Studio Canal. Thousands of instances of dirt, debris, scratches, splices, warps, jitter, and flicker were manually removed using MTI's DRS system and Pixel Farm's PFClean system, while Digital Vision's DVNR system was used for small dirt, grain, and noise reduction.
Telecine supervisor: Pierre Lhomme.
Telecine colorist: Raymond Terrentin/Eclair, Paris
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Can anyone with this box confirm if the picture quality is essentially the same as the discs Kino recently released? Presumably they are the same masters and the Kinos have gotten effusive praise, so I'm thinking the UK box is a cheaper route to go. I already have the Criterion Army of Shadows and don't particularly care about any added Kino extras, but confirmation that the picture quality is equal would be great.
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I haven’t made it through my entire box for a revisit, but it is a dead cert KL is using the exact same masters SC used, though KL may have tweaked some aspects in their presentation (ala Bitter Moon debacle). But they’d be derived from the same source
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How do the extras compare? There can't be anything essential on the Kinos can there?
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KL has commissioned commentaries by the same handful of talking heads that appear on seemingly all of their releases— those are not a plus in my book. But, not related to these but another SC license: they did commission a new James Quandt A-Z visual essay for their Marienbad, so some of their producers are at least trying
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James Quandt? That is a surprise. Maybe Kino is for sale and they brought him in that day to pretend they're a coherent operation with an intelligent plan. Quandt has a British accent right?
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The transfers in the SC set for Léon Morin Priest, Le Doulos and Bob Le Flambeur are all fantastic and from the same 4k restorations that Kino accessed. A word of warning though, Un Flic is in 1080i/50 though and therefore incompatible with most US tvs/players unless either your player or tv can convert it to 1080i/60. Kino has said their upcoming release of Un Flic will be 1080p/24.
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This is probably a silly question, but I'm a novice in this technical area.. will region free players still have trouble with the StudioCanal Un Flic if it's switched to B?
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Not every player is necessarily capable of interpreting 1080i/50, even if it is a region free player. I had this concern when BFI issued the Alan Clarke set (which also has 1080i/50 content), and I googled my player’s model number to look up specs and confirm it could play the material (thankfully it can). I’d recommend you to do the same just to be sure.therewillbeblus wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:49 amThis is probably a silly question, but I'm a novice in this technical area.. will region free players still have trouble with the StudioCanal Un Flic if it's switched to B?
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Thanks, I did that and it doesn’t say one way or the other which isn’t a good sign, but I had bought the set already since it’s worth the price without that title- will report back if it happens to work.
Edit: Looking deeper, the fine print says the player will support frame rate up to 60, thanks for the tip!
Edit: Looking deeper, the fine print says the player will support frame rate up to 60, thanks for the tip!
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If it doesn't happen to work, just wait for the Kino to be offered cheap