551, 666, 838 Trilogía de Guillermo del Toro

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Re: 551 Cronos

#126 Post by CSM126 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:54 am

Europa and Antichrist commentaries are in Danish. I believe Jeanne Moreau's commentary for Jules and Jim is in French as well.

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Re: 551 Cronos

#127 Post by manicsounds » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:27 am

"Anti-Christ" is in English.

"The Last Metro" also has a French one. Ain't the first, as others have said. I do wish that Criterion would do some more alternate language commentaries. The commentary by Kaneto Shindo on the Japan/UK "Onibaba" was excellent, and for some reason not included on the Criterion.

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666 The Devil's Backbone

#128 Post by swo17 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:10 pm


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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#129 Post by Finch » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:17 pm

Day one purchase. It looks like they're attempting some continuity between the Cronos and Devil's Backbone cover (similar fonts and visual style). A very promising package!

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#130 Post by domino harvey » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:19 pm

Who writes the tortuous prose for these item descriptions? Seriously, read that first line again and you'll have read it twice as much as whoever wrote it!

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#131 Post by EddieLarkin » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:12 pm

Has Mark Kermode ever done writing or appeared in features for Criterion before, or is this a first?

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#132 Post by albucat » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:23 pm

Presumably Korseky?

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#133 Post by knives » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:35 pm

Finch wrote:Day one purchase. It looks like they're attempting some continuity between the Cronos and Devil's Backbone cover (similar fonts and visual style). A very promising package!
Mignola does have a very distinct style.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#134 Post by colinr0380 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:40 pm

EddieLarkin wrote:Has Mark Kermode ever done writing or appeared in features for Criterion before, or is this a first?
The introductory documentary he presented for the first UK television showing of Salo on Film4 turned up as a feature when that film was reissued. I guess Kermode is a natural choice for the essay on this since he is a very big fan of Guillermo del Toro's films.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#135 Post by Minkin » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:02 pm

Unless its hidden in one of the interviews (or even an easter egg), we're not getting the sequel to the Bleak House Tour? That was one of the best supplements in recent years from Criterion, and I'd love to see the "rain room" or the other additions he's made to the place. Didn't he even confirm that an update to the tour was made/in the works?

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#136 Post by manicsounds » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:27 am

No surprise that this title is spine number 666?

So it seems the other commentary from the 2002 DVD is not carried over, and it's strange the thumbnail sketches are going to be blu-ray only when it was included on the 2004 DVD.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#137 Post by swo17 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:32 am

manicsounds wrote:No surprise that this title is spine number 666?
The best jokes are the ones where you know the punchline two months in advance. Also this.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#138 Post by PfR73 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:14 pm

manicsounds wrote:So it seems the other commentary from the 2002 DVD is not carried over, and it's strange the thumbnail sketches are going to be blu-ray only when it was included on the 2004 DVD.
I emailed Mulvaney in February about including both commentaries, never received a response. I just sent them another email requesting they add the 2002 commentary to their features.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#140 Post by kindaikun » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:27 am

manicsounds wrote: So it seems the other commentary from the 2002 DVD is not carried over, and it's strange the thumbnail sketches are going to be blu-ray only when it was included on the 2004 DVD.
Just to clarify, it's the old Guillermo del Toro and Guillermo Navarro commentary that you're referring to here as having been left off this edition, rather then another del Toro only commentary? I only ask as the one I have on the UK DVD mentions Pan's Labyrinth as having been made but Criterion's commentary seems to come from 2004, 2 years before it was released. Is this the one included here or was there also another del Toro only commentary produced?

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#141 Post by manicsounds » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:07 am

Criterion's commentary comes from the 2004 Sony SE DVD, an English commentary, while the 2002 commentary is from the 2002 Sony DVD, also in English. So the UK one is different from those? I know the Del Toro introduction (both on the Criterion and Optimum) talks about Pan's Labyrinth, but does he also mention it in the UK commentary?

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#142 Post by kindaikun » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:04 am

manicsounds wrote:Criterion's commentary comes from the 2004 Sony SE DVD, an English commentary, while the 2002 commentary is from the 2002 Sony DVD, also in English. So the UK one is different from those? I know the Del Toro introduction (both on the Criterion and Optimum) talks about Pan's Labyrinth, but does he also mention it in the UK commentary?
Yeah, the one I have here begins with him saying the commentary is "for the UK edition of The Devil's Backbone". He then mentions how he made this after having been brutally raped in Hollywood (presumably referring to his experiences on 'Mimic'). He then goes on to point out the rhyming structure both in the movie and with Pan's Labyrinth. It's unclear from his phrasing whether it has actually been released at the time he is speaking but he seems to imply the DVD is being released to coincide with the release of Pan's Labyrinth.

So, along with the original DVDs del Toro and Navarro commentary, there seem to be at least 3 separate commentaries he has done for this movie? Interesting.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#143 Post by jheez » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:01 am

manicsounds wrote:DVDBeaver
Those caps look quite a lot better than the UK blu-ray in detail, color, and contrast. Might be worth a double dip

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#144 Post by cpetrizzi » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:07 pm

I actually picked this up today. Does anyone know why this in the stores before the stated release date of 7/30? I was surprised to see it next to Babette's Feast at BN today. Or is this a mistake on BN's part?

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#145 Post by swo17 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:12 pm

B&N exclusively had it a week early.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#146 Post by cpetrizzi » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:18 pm

That explains it, thanks!

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#147 Post by phantomforce » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:40 am

picked this up yesterday as well at B&N.. nice package, thin booklet, but great artwork.
I noticed a bit of blocky artifacting though in the beginning when Carlos first sees the ghost through the door.

Not sure if others are seeing this, great flick though and the rest of it looks great!

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#148 Post by manicsounds » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:40 am

The storyboards are unusually, encoded as a subtitle track, and not as a picture-in-picture, so if you want to see the storyboards and have English subtitles, you're out of luck. Why didn't Criterion opt for a PiP track instead? It's a basic thing that many blu-rays have, and Criterion have never used it for some reason.

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Re: 666 The Devil's Backbone

#149 Post by rohmerin » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:39 am

Carlos Gimenez is a famous Spanish comic author. Espinazo's story board is based on his real experiences in immediately post war in the SP catholic largers for children, yes, for children (dreadful stories, real life terror).

He didn't work with Del Toro in Laberinto del fauno.

Just google "Paracuellos imágenes cómic" (not Paracuellos war crimes, that's other)

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Re: 551 Cronos

#150 Post by LavaLamp » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:10 pm

Just saw Cronos for the first time ever; the Criterion BD is excellent, and it's definitely one of the better '90's horror flicks I've seen. Has shades of other horror flicks (Hellraiser, as was mentioned), but also quite unique - the Cronos device was quite bizzare & horrific, and many of the other items/statues in the antique store were both unusual & menacing. Very solid film, especially considering it was GDT's first feature.

The only thing I found off-putting about the film is how some of the characters would switch back & forth from Spanish to English; though the antique dealer spoke no English in the film, other characters were speaking to him in that language as if they thought he understood it - and, it wasn't clear if he did or not. I don't mind seeing films that are 100% subtitled, and wouldn't have minded it if the film were all in Spanish. The film was evidently targeted towards an English-speaking audience....

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