110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#101 Post by criterionsnob » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:38 pm


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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#102 Post by Saturnome » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:52 pm

Ouch, you can really see how much the color Jour de fête is a mess compared to the BFI version... How sad. I don't want to spend 50$ for the OOP blu-ray, yet I'm pretty sure it's only going to get worse soon.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#103 Post by Finch » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:11 am

As disappointing as the colour issues are on Jour de Fete, it's not a favourite Tati of mine so I think I'm going to be content with the b/w version. I sold all my BFI BDs so I'm now going to have to get the Criterion set, for better or worse.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#104 Post by TMDaines » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:33 am

I didn't really care all that much for Tati's films but I was going to give them another chance with this boxset. Such a shame that it isn't definitive. Now I am a bit bitter that my BFI discs didn't go for all that much on eBay several months ago either.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#105 Post by Drucker » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:04 am

Also a minor quibble is that the original version of Holiday looks much less sharp than the re-release. But this seems to be the case for both the BFI and Criterions.

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#106 Post by kristophers » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:24 am

Excuse me for my ignorance here, but have Criterion "fixed" Playtime or completely messed it up?

Isn't the colorized Jour de Fete just an upscale?

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#107 Post by EddieLarkin » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:08 am

They certainly haven't changed the blacks if that's what you're referring to (but of course, they may not actually need changing), but everything else about it looks great. The 1994 Jour de fete is an upscale, as is the 1953 Monsieur Hulot's Holiday and probably My Uncle, though Gary hasn't provided information on that one.
Drucker wrote:Also a minor quibble is that the original version of Holiday looks much less sharp than the re-release. But this seems to be the case for both the BFI and Criterions.
It is, but the original version on the BFI is in HD whilst the version on the Criterion is upscaled SD. There's definitely an appreciable difference.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#108 Post by Drucker » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:19 am

Oy vey. So it seems the BFI Jour De Fete and M. Hulot's Holiday are worth seeking out?

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#109 Post by EddieLarkin » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:26 am

If you want what they offer, definitely.

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#110 Post by MichaelB » Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:30 pm

Drucker wrote:Also a minor quibble is that the original version of Holiday looks much less sharp than the re-release. But this seems to be the case for both the BFI and Criterions.
Tati recut the original neg to make the re-release, so the original cut is unavoidably a generation removed - even if you're comparing HD transfers.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#111 Post by StevenJ0001 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:10 pm

Drucker wrote:Oy vey. So it seems the BFI Jour De Fete and M. Hulot's Holiday are worth seeking out?
And probably Mon Oncle for the HD My Uncle, it seems.

Out of curiosity, are there any extras exclusive to the Studio Canal box that are essential, or will the Criterion box plus the BFI Blus suffice?

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#112 Post by Drucker » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:57 pm

Well, just bit the bullet and bought Holiday from moviemail, which has it in stock for 9.99 GBP.

If anyone sees Jour De Fete in stock anywhere that ships to the USA, please post it here!

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#113 Post by Pepsi » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:57 am

( Jour de Fete) There some stock at Aamzon.uk for just 14.99:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jour-f" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;ête-Blu-ray-Jacques-Tati/dp/B00911MH2I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413629567&sr=8-2&keywords=jour+de+fete

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#114 Post by manicsounds » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:07 am

The Uk BFI Jour De Fete on Amazon UK is from a third party seller.

It is a mystery why Criterion decided to put an older master of the color version when BFI had an HD master. Possibly since they could only work with the Studio Canal masters and nothing else? Has anyone inquired Criterion about it?

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#115 Post by giovannii84 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:14 pm

I might have missed this in earlier posts, but does the set include 'The Comedy of Jacques Tati' off the original Trafic release?

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#116 Post by cdnchris » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:18 pm

giovannii84 wrote:I might have missed this in earlier posts, but does the set include 'The Comedy of Jacques Tati' off the original Trafic release?
I haven't gone through everything yet in the set but I don't believe that feature, which was an interview, appears on the set. I'm only through Mon oncle, though, so it could spring up, just called something else.

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#117 Post by giovannii84 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:07 pm

cdnchris wrote:
giovannii84 wrote:I might have missed this in earlier posts, but does the set include 'The Comedy of Jacques Tati' off the original Trafic release?
I haven't gone through everything yet in the set but I don't believe that feature, which was an interview, appears on the set. I'm only through Mon oncle, though, so it could spring up, just called something else.
Thanks. Let me know once you finish the set :)

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#118 Post by swo17 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:09 pm

cdnchris wrote:I'm only through Mon oncle
Have you confirmed yet whether or not My Uncle is upscaled SD?

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#119 Post by cdnchris » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:10 pm

It sure looks it

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#120 Post by EddieLarkin » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:27 pm

The specs of the French set can be found here, and they list the Thomson-Color Jour de fete, the 1953 Holiday and My Uncle all as MPEG-2 - 576i. It's a sure thing the Criterion will use the same master but upscaled (and speed corrected I imagine).

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#121 Post by cdnchris » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:46 pm

The last reply was quick but yes, it's definitely an upscale. You can tell just by looking at it but i still compared it to the BFI and the difference in quality is huge.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#122 Post by manicsounds » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:47 pm

The Criterion set seems to be a winner in the supplements, but a loser in the quality of the alternate films. Not happy with that.

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#123 Post by Zot! » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:11 pm

manicsounds wrote:The Criterion set seems to be a winner in the supplements, but a loser in the quality of the alternate films. Not happy with that.
Well, I think the selling point is the new transfers of the main features, like the 4k playtime.

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#124 Post by StevenJ0001 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:40 am

Does anybody know if the Playtime scan is from the 70mm elements?

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Re: 110-112, 439, 729-731 The Complete Jacques Tati

#125 Post by cdnchris » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:09 am

The notes state the scan was of the original 65mm negative.

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